What would be a good POD for the studio to have done an animated feature of Madeline in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's?
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redlightning
Banned
What about a sequel to Newsies? I know it was a box office bomb, but it had a cult following that might allow a direct to video release.
The newsies grow up a little bit, the main character Jack decides to go to Santa Fe, New Mexico after all. His girlfriend in the story follows him there to find a new life. David finishes his education and decides to head to New Mexico as well. All of the characters start a small newspaper in Santa Fe to which they contribute.
The newsies grow up a little bit, the main character Jack decides to go to Santa Fe, New Mexico after all. His girlfriend in the story follows him there to find a new life. David finishes his education and decides to head to New Mexico as well. All of the characters start a small newspaper in Santa Fe to which they contribute.
Hi people, just posting my idea:
Movie from an ATL.
For the 2014 film of WDAS:
Red Spring- some what about an ATL Chinese Revolution of 1989 (because China would become democratic in an ATL, this movie instead is made)
PLOT OF ATL MOVIE:
Carmen belongs to a loving family. Her parents, Carnation and Julian, are the best people she can have in her life. They are wealthy and stable. Everyone can say they are the next model family. But everything turns upside down during the Chinese Revolution, when their evac helicopter get shot down by CEML helicopters. She is then put into a coma for the next six days until June 11, when the revolution succeeds. She is adopted by Takashi and Michiko Hamada.
In her quest for justice, she meets Rafael, a fellow survivor of the Revolution whose parents were also killed. She vows to uphold the values taught to her by her parents, but when she meets an outrageously stubborn Li Peng, her faith and foundation is put to the test. Will she be able to overcome these trials, or will she collapse under grief, anger and the desire for revenge?
Released on:
June 5, 2014 in the LA Premiere
June 11, 2014 in the Philippines, China, and the United States
Main Characters:
Carmen Banzon-Hamada: 17 years old (at the time of the Revolution). She was orphaned during the 1989 Chinese Revolution. She is the protagonist.
She is co-CEO of Blue Hand Enterprises, the largesr tech firm in the Federal Republic of the Philippines.
Rafael Guzman-Collins: 19 years old (at the time of the revolution). Like Carmen, his parents were killed during the Revolution when CEML forces shot Philippine Airlines Flight 232, killing 282 people in the process. She is the deuteragonist.
He is co-CEO of Blue Hand Enterprises, the largesr tech firm in the Federal Republic of the Philippines.
Michiko Hamada: Adoptive mother of Carmen.
Takashi Hamada: Adoptive father of Carmen.
Li Peng: The antagonist, the former Premier of China. He stubbornly defends his stance, infuriating Carmen.
John Collins: The adoptive father of Rafael.
Nicole Collins: The adoptive mother of Rafael.
Deng Pufang: Son of then-leader Deng Xiaoping. He announces the death of his father under house arrest in the hands of the CEML, precipotating the collapse of the said group of coupists.
Zhao Ziyang: Former General Secretary of the PRC and Prime Minister of the FRC. He leads the reformist faction of the CPC.
Main minor characters:
Ray Collins: Prodigy, the older son of Rafael and Carmen, 19 years old (in the present)
John Israel Collins: Prodigy, younger son of Rafael and Carmen, 14 years old (in the present)
(OOC: John Israel is me. Ray is my brother, while Rafael and Carmen are our parents. I changed the names to conceal our identities.)
Box office: $7.7 Billion
Budget: $230 million
Rating (Metacritic): 100
Rating (Rotten Tomatoes): 100%
2014 Oscar Best Feature, Besr Animated Feature, Best Soundtrack, and 7+ more awards.
Movie from an ATL.
For the 2014 film of WDAS:
Red Spring- some what about an ATL Chinese Revolution of 1989 (because China would become democratic in an ATL, this movie instead is made)
PLOT OF ATL MOVIE:
Carmen belongs to a loving family. Her parents, Carnation and Julian, are the best people she can have in her life. They are wealthy and stable. Everyone can say they are the next model family. But everything turns upside down during the Chinese Revolution, when their evac helicopter get shot down by CEML helicopters. She is then put into a coma for the next six days until June 11, when the revolution succeeds. She is adopted by Takashi and Michiko Hamada.
In her quest for justice, she meets Rafael, a fellow survivor of the Revolution whose parents were also killed. She vows to uphold the values taught to her by her parents, but when she meets an outrageously stubborn Li Peng, her faith and foundation is put to the test. Will she be able to overcome these trials, or will she collapse under grief, anger and the desire for revenge?
Released on:
June 5, 2014 in the LA Premiere
June 11, 2014 in the Philippines, China, and the United States
Main Characters:
Carmen Banzon-Hamada: 17 years old (at the time of the Revolution). She was orphaned during the 1989 Chinese Revolution. She is the protagonist.
She is co-CEO of Blue Hand Enterprises, the largesr tech firm in the Federal Republic of the Philippines.
Rafael Guzman-Collins: 19 years old (at the time of the revolution). Like Carmen, his parents were killed during the Revolution when CEML forces shot Philippine Airlines Flight 232, killing 282 people in the process. She is the deuteragonist.
He is co-CEO of Blue Hand Enterprises, the largesr tech firm in the Federal Republic of the Philippines.
Michiko Hamada: Adoptive mother of Carmen.
Takashi Hamada: Adoptive father of Carmen.
Li Peng: The antagonist, the former Premier of China. He stubbornly defends his stance, infuriating Carmen.
John Collins: The adoptive father of Rafael.
Nicole Collins: The adoptive mother of Rafael.
Deng Pufang: Son of then-leader Deng Xiaoping. He announces the death of his father under house arrest in the hands of the CEML, precipotating the collapse of the said group of coupists.
Zhao Ziyang: Former General Secretary of the PRC and Prime Minister of the FRC. He leads the reformist faction of the CPC.
Main minor characters:
Ray Collins: Prodigy, the older son of Rafael and Carmen, 19 years old (in the present)
John Israel Collins: Prodigy, younger son of Rafael and Carmen, 14 years old (in the present)
(OOC: John Israel is me. Ray is my brother, while Rafael and Carmen are our parents. I changed the names to conceal our identities.)
Box office: $7.7 Billion
Budget: $230 million
Rating (Metacritic): 100
Rating (Rotten Tomatoes): 100%
2014 Oscar Best Feature, Besr Animated Feature, Best Soundtrack, and 7+ more awards.
Could "The Princess And The Frog" could have contributed to a comeback in traditional animation?
No. Traditional ones were dead by the late 2000s. This was just an experimental effort on going back to traditional animation, and although it was a success, Disney acknowledged that it earned less than what they had expected.
(Wait I forgot to add more to my idea above. Well of course Big Hero 6 (my most fave movie) would be butterflied ITTL. This is based on Tony's A Song was Heard in China and my own Tales of the Shining Pearl). But the movie not existing would cause even greater butterflies in my ATL personal life
ATL: "Im proud to be a Hamada. I am proud to be a Collins."- I in my TL)
redlightning
Banned
What about a feature film adaption of other fairy tales such as Little Red Riding Hood or Goldilocks.
The cartoon series Gargoyles, according to one of its producers an co-creators Greg Weisman, was initially planned to continue on for several seasons. There were also plans to do a number of spin-offs, including: a time-travel series with Brooklyn, a suicide squad style series starring several former antagonists, a sequel set in the future featuring an alien invasion and animated in CGI, and something to do with the New Olympians who appeared in that one episode (some of this stuff he would later cover in a line of comics published by Slave Labor Graphics). There was also going to be some degree of overlap with the unmade Team Atlantis TV series.
Unfortunately IOTL Disney decided to replace most of the animation producers and writers for the third season, which they re-branded The Goliath Chronicles, which was much less successful and regarded by many fans as lying somewhere on the spectrum between disappointing and ungodly abomination, and the show was cancelled soon after.
Now if whatever executive thought this was a good idea were to suffer a (preferably agonising) mishap, and Gargoyles went on to become one of Disney's major franchises, I can see them making a few movies out of it. And before you ask, no, releasing the first six episodes on VHS and calling it a movie doesn't count.
Unfortunately IOTL Disney decided to replace most of the animation producers and writers for the third season, which they re-branded The Goliath Chronicles, which was much less successful and regarded by many fans as lying somewhere on the spectrum between disappointing and ungodly abomination, and the show was cancelled soon after.
Now if whatever executive thought this was a good idea were to suffer a (preferably agonising) mishap, and Gargoyles went on to become one of Disney's major franchises, I can see them making a few movies out of it. And before you ask, no, releasing the first six episodes on VHS and calling it a movie doesn't count.
i've come up with a fair bit along these lines as internal fiction for my ASB ATL, one of the most prominent differences being a whole Fantasia series with at least a dozen entries through to TTL's present-day. here's some examples, and i've added some extra notes not in the document i'm storing these in to clarify some things:
The Hound of Florence Inspector Bones (1943)
++OTL: The Shaggy Dog (1959)
- Based on: The Hound of Florence
- Notes: replaces Saludos Amigos; this was a live-action film IOTL
The Tales of Hans Christian Anderson (1947)
++OTL: not applicable
- Based on: fairy tales by Hans Christian Anderson (The Emperor’s New Clothes; The Emperor’s Nightingale; Through the Picture Frame; The Little Fir-Tree; The Steadfast Tin Soldier; The Little Mermaid)
- An emperor is swindled into buying clothes so fine that they can’t be seen or felt, and parades through town in his boxers until a child points out that he isn’t wearing any clothes. He becomes sick with embarrassment but is healed by the song of a nightingale; when the bird cannot be found when his sickness comes back, he is swindled once again into buying a mechanical bird which plays the song perfectly, but breaks down before long, leaving him in dire straits.
- Notes: replaces Fun and Fancy Free; The Little Mermaid is not its own film as a consequence of this one being made, and as a result is more compressed than the OTL film but still has a happy ending; all of the fairy tales are interconnected in some way ((the summary is still a WIP))
The Jungle Book (1967)
++OTL: The Jungle Book (1967)
- Based on: The Jungle Book; The Second Jungle Book
- A young boy named Mowgli is found by the panther Bagheera in the jungles of the Mughal Empire, who takes him to be raised by a pack of wolves. When the wolves learn that the misanthropic tiger Shere Khan has returned to the jungle, Bagheera decides to take the man-cub through the jungle to a village where he will be safe. On the way, they meet the fun-loving bear Baloo and are waylaid by the mad orangutan King Louie and the python Kaa. When Baloo finally agrees with Bagheera on taking Mowgli to the village, Mowgli becomes upset and runs away, finally encountering Shere Khan and being saved from the tiger by Baloo. Lightning strikes nearby and ignites a dead tree, giving Mowgli the one thing that Shere Khan is afraid of: fire. After he drives off the tiger, he reluctantly approaches the village, where he finally decides to join his own people.
- Notes: Baloo and Kaa could be revised so that they are more similar to the original characters, and King Louie may be omitted; it could also be a crossover with other Kipling stories, such as Rikki-Tikki-Tavi being Mowgli’s more constant and sillier companion instead of Baloo (and receiving his own direct-to-video movie years later, telling his own story) and the girl at the end being specifically named Gunga Din ((the summary is a placeholder for now--i WANT to rewrite it along the lines of the divergence notes, but am having trouble doing so))
Robin Hood (1973)
++OTL: Robin Hood (1973)
- Based on: Robin Hood stories
- Robin Hood, a fox, robs the rich to feed the poor of medieval Nottingham in Britannia, even robbing the personal carriage of Regent Rotherwood, a tiger, who rules Britannia while King John is away on a crusade. When Rotherwood comes to Nottingham, he raises the taxes and uses Sheriff Isengrim, a wolf, to extort gold coins out of the townsfolk, but Robin keeps stealing the money back with the help of Little John, a cat. Rotherwood decides to hold an archery tournament with a kiss from Maid Marian, a fox, as the prize to draw Robin out and nearly captures him. Soon, the townsfolk are completely impoverished despite Robin’s best efforts and are jailed for failing to pay their ever rising taxes, and even Friar Grimbard Tuck, a badger, is arrested for attacking the Sheriff when he tries to take donations from the church as taxes. Rotherwood decides to draw out Robin again by declaring that the friar will be hanged as bait. Robin successfully infiltrates Rotherwood’s fortress and not only frees all of the villagers, but also steals every last farthing from Rotherwood’s own bedchamber. However, Robin is injured during the escape and takes refuge in the church. Rotherwood arrives, planning to murder Robin while Marian tries to stop him. They are saved by the timely arrival of King John, a lion, who locks up Rotherwood for oppressing the people. Robin and Marian get married and they live happily ever after.
- Notes: the film bears more similarities to Reynard the Fox than IOTL; the Sheriff is shown reformed at the end of the film by attending Robin and Marian’s wedding and looking genuinely happy ((this one relies more heavily on previous differences to the TL for its divergences--"Regent Rotherwood" is simply TTL's version of Prince John as far as the Robin Hood legends are concerned and is based on a historical figure ITTL, though that historical character is fictional to us IOTL))
One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing (1975)
++OTL: One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing (1975)
- Based on: The Great Dinosaur Robbery
- Lord Southmere, an apparent spy, escapes from China with the formula for the mysterious “Lotus X” and hides it in a Brontosaurus skeleton in the American Museum of Natural History as Chinese spies close in on him. By chance, he encounters his former nanny Hettie and asks her to retrieve the microfilm for him at a later time. They search the museum, but are captured by the Chinese spies, who steal the entire skeleton so that they can search it properly. Hettie, in turn, managed to steal the truck that the spies loaded the skeleton onto and escapes with it, but try as she might she can’t find the microfilm and concludes that it must be on the other dinosaur skeleton in the museum, of a Seismosaurus. After retrieving the microfilm, Hettie goes to a restaurant the spies are using as a base to trade it for Southmere, but disaster ensues as the stolen dinosaur skeleton falls apart on top of them. In the end, it is revealed that Southmere is actually a businessman, not a spy, and that “Lotus X” is actually a wonton soup recipe that he was hoping to market. With the misunderstanding cleared up, they all make peace with each other.
- Notes: this was a live-action film IOTL; Atlantosaurus is incorrectly referred to as Brontosaurus ((the different species names for dinosaurs here are because of butterflies: Atlantosaurus is Apatosaurus and Seismosaurus is Diplodocus))
The Rescuers (1976)
++OTL: The Rescuers (1977)
- Based on: The Rescuers; Miss Bianca
- An orphan named Penny sends a message in a bottle asking for help. The bottle is recovered by the Rescue Aid Society, an organization of mice who help those in need, and is brought to their headquarters in the League of Nations building in Zürich. The RAS deploys Miss Bianca of Austria-Hungary to help Penny, and reluctantly send their janitor Bernard to escort her at Bianca’s request. The mice go to the orphanage where Penny was last seen and learn that she has been taken by “the Diamond Duchess,” who upon investigation turns out to be Cruella de Vil. They travel to Devil’s Bayou, where Penny has been taken, and are aided by the local swamp animals, who hate Cruella. After achieving contact with Penny, they agree to help her find the Devil’s Eye, the largest diamond in the world, from a steadily flooding cave so that Cruella will no longer have any reason to hold her prisoner. Once Cruella has the diamond, though, she prepares to kill all witnesses but is interrupted by the arrival of the swamp animals, who help Bianca and Bernard not only save Penny but also take back the diamond and escape. Penny is adopted and Bernard becomes a full member of the Rescue Aid Society, set to accompany Bianca on another mission soon.
- Notes: various characters retain their original names from the book (Snoops is Mandrake, Brutus and Nero are Tyrant and Torment, and Cruella—replacing Madame Medusa—uses “the Diamond Duchess” as an alias); ((i still need to adjust part of this so that Orville is named after a different historical figure since the Wright Brothers don't have the first successful flight ITTL))
The Lion King (1994)
++OTL: The Lion King (1994)
- Based on: Hamlet
- Notes: a much more direct adaptation of Hamlet, and therefore not considered Disney’s first “original” feature-length film
Pocahontas (1995)
++OTL: Pocahontas (1995)
- Based on: historical figure of Pocahontas and the settlement of Henricus
- Captain John Smith leads Anglish colonists to a newly-claimed region in the New World—Virginia—to establish a colony called Henricus, accompanied by Governor Ratcliffe. Unbeknownst to them, Virginia is already inhabited by a Native American tribe called the Powhatan, whose shaman warns that pale-skinned men are coming from across the sea with weapons unlike any they’ve seen before. The young Powhatan princess Pocahontas sees the sails of the Anglish ships and watches from afar as Ratcliffe claims the entire continent for King Henry IX and has the colonists start digging up the countryside in search of gold, arguing with Smith the whole time. A young man named John Rolfe goes exploring in the forest and encounters Pocahontas, showing her common European items which seem like magic to her. Meanwhile, the Anglish shoot at a pair of Powhatans spying on them, signaling the start of several weeks of conflict between the two groups while Pocahontas and Rolfe continue to meet in secret. The colonists become fed up with Ratcliffe as it becomes more and more apparent that there’s no gold, and Smith leads them in a raid on the Powhatan village to steal food, but is injured as they make their escape. With Smith incapacitated, Ratcliffe leads the colonists in an attack on the village, convinced that the Powhatan are hoarding all the gold. Pocahontas and Rolfe stop them at the last minute and Ratcliffe is arrested and sent back to Britannia in shame. As the colonists and Powhatan establish peace, both Pocahontas and Rolfe proclaim their love for each other.
- Notes: Pocahontas is much younger, (and designed to resemble Tiger Lily from Peter Pan, though with some changes to her wardrobe and an adjusted skin tone) her companion animal is a turkey named Redfeather instead of a raccoon, and the story as a whole bears more similarities to historical events; John Smith is an antihero rather than a direct protagonist who essentially leaves the story at the end of the second act, John Rolfe is a composite character of Smith and Thomas from the OTL film and himself from the direct-to-video sequel; Pocahontas’ Christian name, Rebecca Rolfe, is acknowledged by Rolfe saying that she looks more like a Rebecca when she tells him her name and tries to give her the pet name Becca
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)
++OTL: The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)
- Based on: Notre Dame de Paris
- When Judge Claude Frollo accidentally kills a Gypsy woman on the steps of Notre-Dame Cathedral, the archdeacon insists that he take in her malformed baby to atone for his sin. Twenty years later, the child has grown up in the isolation of the bell towers to become a hunchbacked young man named Quasimodo. Against Frollo’s advice, Quasimodo leaves the tower attend the Festival of Fools, where he meets a beautiful Gypsy named Esmeralda. Because everyone is wearing costumes, no one suspects that Quasimodo is who he is until they try to take off his “mask.” Quasimodo is ridiculed, much to the anger of Esmeralda, who calls out Frollo for not helping him. In the ensuing chaos, Esmeralda is accused of witchcraft and nearly arrested, but she escapes to Notre-Dame and claims sanctuary with the help of Pierre Gringoire, an amateur poet and the captain of Frollo’s guard. While Quasimodo is touched by Esmeralda’s kindness, Frollo becomes completely enamored with her and decides that he will force her to be his or else be executed. In his search for her, Frollo begins arresting innocent civilians; the final straw for Gringoire is when he tries to burn down a house with people in it. Seeking help from the Gypsies, Quasimodo and Gringoire search for the Court of Miracles—their secret hiding place—but accidentally lead Frollo right to them. As Esmeralda is about to be burned at the stake, Quasimodo saves her and turns Notre-Dame into a stronghold against Frollo’s soldiers while Gringoire spurs the Parisians into action against the wicked judge. Frollo manages to reach the top of the tower, where he tries to kill Quasimodo and Esmeralda while proclaiming his own righteousness, but falls to his death when the statue he is standing on springs to life in an act of God. Quasimodo is left to accept that Esmeralda and Gringoire are in love and gives them his blessing while he is hailed as a hero by the people of Paris.
- Notes: it is implied that the gargoyles are all in Quasimodo’s mind, (e.g., they don’t participate in the climax) and the female gargoyle is named Adèle after Victor Hugo’s wife instead of Laverne; Phoebus is replaced by Gringoire, as Disney’s Phoebus IOTL roughly occupies Gringoire’s role from the original book
Hercules (1997)
++OTL: Hercules (1997)
- Based on: mythological figure of Hercules and Greco-Roman mythology
- Jupiter and his latest wife on Mount Olympus are overjoyed at the birth of their son Hercules while his first wife, Juno, is angry and jealous. She plans to overthrow Jupiter, but learns from the Oracle that she’ll only succeed if Hercules doesn’t join the battle against her. She sends her son Mars to render Hercules mortal and kill him, but he fails to take away the baby’s godlike strength and cannot do the deed. Years later, Hercules is hated by mortals as a freak, unaware of his divine heritage. Hercules goes to the Temple of Jupiter for guidance and learns that he is actually a god. He is charged with finding his relatives Ceres, Pluto, Mercury, and Vulcan so that they can train him to become a hero and regain his godhood. Over time, Hercules become the most famous man in Greece, but it isn’t enough to win back his place on Olympus and he becomes depressed. A woman named Vesta cheers him up, but she is used as leverage by Juno to take away his strength so that she can attack Olympus unhindered. When Mars attacks Hercules again, he accidentally injures Vesta and breaks Juno’s deal with Hercules, who turns the tide of the battle at Olympus and defeats Juno. However, Hercules returns to Vesta too late and finds that she has died. He travels to the underworld and leaps into the River Styx to rescue her, earning him back his immortality by saving her from death itself. Hercules decides to remain mortal so that he can stay with Vesta and they live happily ever after.
- Notes: Juno replaces Hades as the villain, but the characters are essentially the same except for Juno being more serious; the Titans are replaced by monsters, etc., associated with Hera in mythology
Kingdom of the Sun (1999)
++OTL: The Emperor’s New Groove (2000)
- Based on: The Prince and the Pauper
- Notes: replaces Tarzan; more similar to the original concept, and therefore more serious than its OTL equivalent and is considered to be where the Disney Renaissance ends ITTL; like the story it is based on, it is specifically set in 1547, though this makes it historically inaccurate since the Spanish Conquest was taking place at this time
Dinosaur (2001)
++OTL: Dinosaur (2000)
- Based on: original
- An egg is taken from a Monoclonius nest and ends up on an island populated by lemurs. Years later, the Iguanodon has grown into an adult named Noah who was raised by lemurs, and he and his adoptive family are forced onto the mainland when a meteor strike destroys the island. They wander through the desert until they find a herd of plant-eating dinosaurs making their way to their nesting grounds, the last spot of fertile land around for miles. Noah helps the herd find water, but they are hounded by a pair of ferocious Manospondylus. When Noah and his friends become separated from the herd, they find another way into the nesting grounds and learn that the path that the rest of the herd is taking has been blocked by a rockslide. Noah returns to the herd to tell them of the other path, but they are attacked by the Manospondylus. At the top of the barrier, Noah fights the dryptosaur, sending it over the edge to fall to its death. The herd returns to the nesting grounds and survive to the next season, saving their species.
- Notes: replaces The Emperor’s New Groove; this film is considered Disney’s first original feature-length film instead of The Lion King, and is directed by Paul Verhoeven; Aladar is named Noah based on an early draft of the script IOTL; the original idea of the main character being a Monoclonius is retained, resulting in some similarities to Prehistoric Beast as well; the film is altogether a reimagining of the Rite of Spring segment from Fantasia, featuring up-to-date versions of all the dinosaurs from there with the implication that the events of Dinosaur take place during or after the extinction event in the Rite of Spring segment
i've also worked on full-on script summaries of some of the more divergent films and was even making scripts for them, but i unfortunately lost everything i'd worked on for the scripts
The Hound of Florence Inspector Bones (1943)
++OTL: The Shaggy Dog (1959)
- Based on: The Hound of Florence
- Notes: replaces Saludos Amigos; this was a live-action film IOTL
The Tales of Hans Christian Anderson (1947)
++OTL: not applicable
- Based on: fairy tales by Hans Christian Anderson (The Emperor’s New Clothes; The Emperor’s Nightingale; Through the Picture Frame; The Little Fir-Tree; The Steadfast Tin Soldier; The Little Mermaid)
- An emperor is swindled into buying clothes so fine that they can’t be seen or felt, and parades through town in his boxers until a child points out that he isn’t wearing any clothes. He becomes sick with embarrassment but is healed by the song of a nightingale; when the bird cannot be found when his sickness comes back, he is swindled once again into buying a mechanical bird which plays the song perfectly, but breaks down before long, leaving him in dire straits.
- Notes: replaces Fun and Fancy Free; The Little Mermaid is not its own film as a consequence of this one being made, and as a result is more compressed than the OTL film but still has a happy ending; all of the fairy tales are interconnected in some way ((the summary is still a WIP))
The Jungle Book (1967)
++OTL: The Jungle Book (1967)
- Based on: The Jungle Book; The Second Jungle Book
- A young boy named Mowgli is found by the panther Bagheera in the jungles of the Mughal Empire, who takes him to be raised by a pack of wolves. When the wolves learn that the misanthropic tiger Shere Khan has returned to the jungle, Bagheera decides to take the man-cub through the jungle to a village where he will be safe. On the way, they meet the fun-loving bear Baloo and are waylaid by the mad orangutan King Louie and the python Kaa. When Baloo finally agrees with Bagheera on taking Mowgli to the village, Mowgli becomes upset and runs away, finally encountering Shere Khan and being saved from the tiger by Baloo. Lightning strikes nearby and ignites a dead tree, giving Mowgli the one thing that Shere Khan is afraid of: fire. After he drives off the tiger, he reluctantly approaches the village, where he finally decides to join his own people.
- Notes: Baloo and Kaa could be revised so that they are more similar to the original characters, and King Louie may be omitted; it could also be a crossover with other Kipling stories, such as Rikki-Tikki-Tavi being Mowgli’s more constant and sillier companion instead of Baloo (and receiving his own direct-to-video movie years later, telling his own story) and the girl at the end being specifically named Gunga Din ((the summary is a placeholder for now--i WANT to rewrite it along the lines of the divergence notes, but am having trouble doing so))
Robin Hood (1973)
++OTL: Robin Hood (1973)
- Based on: Robin Hood stories
- Robin Hood, a fox, robs the rich to feed the poor of medieval Nottingham in Britannia, even robbing the personal carriage of Regent Rotherwood, a tiger, who rules Britannia while King John is away on a crusade. When Rotherwood comes to Nottingham, he raises the taxes and uses Sheriff Isengrim, a wolf, to extort gold coins out of the townsfolk, but Robin keeps stealing the money back with the help of Little John, a cat. Rotherwood decides to hold an archery tournament with a kiss from Maid Marian, a fox, as the prize to draw Robin out and nearly captures him. Soon, the townsfolk are completely impoverished despite Robin’s best efforts and are jailed for failing to pay their ever rising taxes, and even Friar Grimbard Tuck, a badger, is arrested for attacking the Sheriff when he tries to take donations from the church as taxes. Rotherwood decides to draw out Robin again by declaring that the friar will be hanged as bait. Robin successfully infiltrates Rotherwood’s fortress and not only frees all of the villagers, but also steals every last farthing from Rotherwood’s own bedchamber. However, Robin is injured during the escape and takes refuge in the church. Rotherwood arrives, planning to murder Robin while Marian tries to stop him. They are saved by the timely arrival of King John, a lion, who locks up Rotherwood for oppressing the people. Robin and Marian get married and they live happily ever after.
- Notes: the film bears more similarities to Reynard the Fox than IOTL; the Sheriff is shown reformed at the end of the film by attending Robin and Marian’s wedding and looking genuinely happy ((this one relies more heavily on previous differences to the TL for its divergences--"Regent Rotherwood" is simply TTL's version of Prince John as far as the Robin Hood legends are concerned and is based on a historical figure ITTL, though that historical character is fictional to us IOTL))
One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing (1975)
++OTL: One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing (1975)
- Based on: The Great Dinosaur Robbery
- Lord Southmere, an apparent spy, escapes from China with the formula for the mysterious “Lotus X” and hides it in a Brontosaurus skeleton in the American Museum of Natural History as Chinese spies close in on him. By chance, he encounters his former nanny Hettie and asks her to retrieve the microfilm for him at a later time. They search the museum, but are captured by the Chinese spies, who steal the entire skeleton so that they can search it properly. Hettie, in turn, managed to steal the truck that the spies loaded the skeleton onto and escapes with it, but try as she might she can’t find the microfilm and concludes that it must be on the other dinosaur skeleton in the museum, of a Seismosaurus. After retrieving the microfilm, Hettie goes to a restaurant the spies are using as a base to trade it for Southmere, but disaster ensues as the stolen dinosaur skeleton falls apart on top of them. In the end, it is revealed that Southmere is actually a businessman, not a spy, and that “Lotus X” is actually a wonton soup recipe that he was hoping to market. With the misunderstanding cleared up, they all make peace with each other.
- Notes: this was a live-action film IOTL; Atlantosaurus is incorrectly referred to as Brontosaurus ((the different species names for dinosaurs here are because of butterflies: Atlantosaurus is Apatosaurus and Seismosaurus is Diplodocus))
The Rescuers (1976)
++OTL: The Rescuers (1977)
- Based on: The Rescuers; Miss Bianca
- An orphan named Penny sends a message in a bottle asking for help. The bottle is recovered by the Rescue Aid Society, an organization of mice who help those in need, and is brought to their headquarters in the League of Nations building in Zürich. The RAS deploys Miss Bianca of Austria-Hungary to help Penny, and reluctantly send their janitor Bernard to escort her at Bianca’s request. The mice go to the orphanage where Penny was last seen and learn that she has been taken by “the Diamond Duchess,” who upon investigation turns out to be Cruella de Vil. They travel to Devil’s Bayou, where Penny has been taken, and are aided by the local swamp animals, who hate Cruella. After achieving contact with Penny, they agree to help her find the Devil’s Eye, the largest diamond in the world, from a steadily flooding cave so that Cruella will no longer have any reason to hold her prisoner. Once Cruella has the diamond, though, she prepares to kill all witnesses but is interrupted by the arrival of the swamp animals, who help Bianca and Bernard not only save Penny but also take back the diamond and escape. Penny is adopted and Bernard becomes a full member of the Rescue Aid Society, set to accompany Bianca on another mission soon.
- Notes: various characters retain their original names from the book (Snoops is Mandrake, Brutus and Nero are Tyrant and Torment, and Cruella—replacing Madame Medusa—uses “the Diamond Duchess” as an alias); ((i still need to adjust part of this so that Orville is named after a different historical figure since the Wright Brothers don't have the first successful flight ITTL))
The Lion King (1994)
++OTL: The Lion King (1994)
- Based on: Hamlet
- Notes: a much more direct adaptation of Hamlet, and therefore not considered Disney’s first “original” feature-length film
Pocahontas (1995)
++OTL: Pocahontas (1995)
- Based on: historical figure of Pocahontas and the settlement of Henricus
- Captain John Smith leads Anglish colonists to a newly-claimed region in the New World—Virginia—to establish a colony called Henricus, accompanied by Governor Ratcliffe. Unbeknownst to them, Virginia is already inhabited by a Native American tribe called the Powhatan, whose shaman warns that pale-skinned men are coming from across the sea with weapons unlike any they’ve seen before. The young Powhatan princess Pocahontas sees the sails of the Anglish ships and watches from afar as Ratcliffe claims the entire continent for King Henry IX and has the colonists start digging up the countryside in search of gold, arguing with Smith the whole time. A young man named John Rolfe goes exploring in the forest and encounters Pocahontas, showing her common European items which seem like magic to her. Meanwhile, the Anglish shoot at a pair of Powhatans spying on them, signaling the start of several weeks of conflict between the two groups while Pocahontas and Rolfe continue to meet in secret. The colonists become fed up with Ratcliffe as it becomes more and more apparent that there’s no gold, and Smith leads them in a raid on the Powhatan village to steal food, but is injured as they make their escape. With Smith incapacitated, Ratcliffe leads the colonists in an attack on the village, convinced that the Powhatan are hoarding all the gold. Pocahontas and Rolfe stop them at the last minute and Ratcliffe is arrested and sent back to Britannia in shame. As the colonists and Powhatan establish peace, both Pocahontas and Rolfe proclaim their love for each other.
- Notes: Pocahontas is much younger, (and designed to resemble Tiger Lily from Peter Pan, though with some changes to her wardrobe and an adjusted skin tone) her companion animal is a turkey named Redfeather instead of a raccoon, and the story as a whole bears more similarities to historical events; John Smith is an antihero rather than a direct protagonist who essentially leaves the story at the end of the second act, John Rolfe is a composite character of Smith and Thomas from the OTL film and himself from the direct-to-video sequel; Pocahontas’ Christian name, Rebecca Rolfe, is acknowledged by Rolfe saying that she looks more like a Rebecca when she tells him her name and tries to give her the pet name Becca
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)
++OTL: The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)
- Based on: Notre Dame de Paris
- When Judge Claude Frollo accidentally kills a Gypsy woman on the steps of Notre-Dame Cathedral, the archdeacon insists that he take in her malformed baby to atone for his sin. Twenty years later, the child has grown up in the isolation of the bell towers to become a hunchbacked young man named Quasimodo. Against Frollo’s advice, Quasimodo leaves the tower attend the Festival of Fools, where he meets a beautiful Gypsy named Esmeralda. Because everyone is wearing costumes, no one suspects that Quasimodo is who he is until they try to take off his “mask.” Quasimodo is ridiculed, much to the anger of Esmeralda, who calls out Frollo for not helping him. In the ensuing chaos, Esmeralda is accused of witchcraft and nearly arrested, but she escapes to Notre-Dame and claims sanctuary with the help of Pierre Gringoire, an amateur poet and the captain of Frollo’s guard. While Quasimodo is touched by Esmeralda’s kindness, Frollo becomes completely enamored with her and decides that he will force her to be his or else be executed. In his search for her, Frollo begins arresting innocent civilians; the final straw for Gringoire is when he tries to burn down a house with people in it. Seeking help from the Gypsies, Quasimodo and Gringoire search for the Court of Miracles—their secret hiding place—but accidentally lead Frollo right to them. As Esmeralda is about to be burned at the stake, Quasimodo saves her and turns Notre-Dame into a stronghold against Frollo’s soldiers while Gringoire spurs the Parisians into action against the wicked judge. Frollo manages to reach the top of the tower, where he tries to kill Quasimodo and Esmeralda while proclaiming his own righteousness, but falls to his death when the statue he is standing on springs to life in an act of God. Quasimodo is left to accept that Esmeralda and Gringoire are in love and gives them his blessing while he is hailed as a hero by the people of Paris.
- Notes: it is implied that the gargoyles are all in Quasimodo’s mind, (e.g., they don’t participate in the climax) and the female gargoyle is named Adèle after Victor Hugo’s wife instead of Laverne; Phoebus is replaced by Gringoire, as Disney’s Phoebus IOTL roughly occupies Gringoire’s role from the original book
Hercules (1997)
++OTL: Hercules (1997)
- Based on: mythological figure of Hercules and Greco-Roman mythology
- Jupiter and his latest wife on Mount Olympus are overjoyed at the birth of their son Hercules while his first wife, Juno, is angry and jealous. She plans to overthrow Jupiter, but learns from the Oracle that she’ll only succeed if Hercules doesn’t join the battle against her. She sends her son Mars to render Hercules mortal and kill him, but he fails to take away the baby’s godlike strength and cannot do the deed. Years later, Hercules is hated by mortals as a freak, unaware of his divine heritage. Hercules goes to the Temple of Jupiter for guidance and learns that he is actually a god. He is charged with finding his relatives Ceres, Pluto, Mercury, and Vulcan so that they can train him to become a hero and regain his godhood. Over time, Hercules become the most famous man in Greece, but it isn’t enough to win back his place on Olympus and he becomes depressed. A woman named Vesta cheers him up, but she is used as leverage by Juno to take away his strength so that she can attack Olympus unhindered. When Mars attacks Hercules again, he accidentally injures Vesta and breaks Juno’s deal with Hercules, who turns the tide of the battle at Olympus and defeats Juno. However, Hercules returns to Vesta too late and finds that she has died. He travels to the underworld and leaps into the River Styx to rescue her, earning him back his immortality by saving her from death itself. Hercules decides to remain mortal so that he can stay with Vesta and they live happily ever after.
- Notes: Juno replaces Hades as the villain, but the characters are essentially the same except for Juno being more serious; the Titans are replaced by monsters, etc., associated with Hera in mythology
Kingdom of the Sun (1999)
++OTL: The Emperor’s New Groove (2000)
- Based on: The Prince and the Pauper
- Notes: replaces Tarzan; more similar to the original concept, and therefore more serious than its OTL equivalent and is considered to be where the Disney Renaissance ends ITTL; like the story it is based on, it is specifically set in 1547, though this makes it historically inaccurate since the Spanish Conquest was taking place at this time
Dinosaur (2001)
++OTL: Dinosaur (2000)
- Based on: original
- An egg is taken from a Monoclonius nest and ends up on an island populated by lemurs. Years later, the Iguanodon has grown into an adult named Noah who was raised by lemurs, and he and his adoptive family are forced onto the mainland when a meteor strike destroys the island. They wander through the desert until they find a herd of plant-eating dinosaurs making their way to their nesting grounds, the last spot of fertile land around for miles. Noah helps the herd find water, but they are hounded by a pair of ferocious Manospondylus. When Noah and his friends become separated from the herd, they find another way into the nesting grounds and learn that the path that the rest of the herd is taking has been blocked by a rockslide. Noah returns to the herd to tell them of the other path, but they are attacked by the Manospondylus. At the top of the barrier, Noah fights the dryptosaur, sending it over the edge to fall to its death. The herd returns to the nesting grounds and survive to the next season, saving their species.
- Notes: replaces The Emperor’s New Groove; this film is considered Disney’s first original feature-length film instead of The Lion King, and is directed by Paul Verhoeven; Aladar is named Noah based on an early draft of the script IOTL; the original idea of the main character being a Monoclonius is retained, resulting in some similarities to Prehistoric Beast as well; the film is altogether a reimagining of the Rite of Spring segment from Fantasia, featuring up-to-date versions of all the dinosaurs from there with the implication that the events of Dinosaur take place during or after the extinction event in the Rite of Spring segment
i've also worked on full-on script summaries of some of the more divergent films and was even making scripts for them, but i unfortunately lost everything i'd worked on for the scripts
redlightning
Banned
Pochantas would've been improved and less controversial simply by making her a generic Indian girl and not based on a historical figure.
Find a generic Indian tribe somewhere in colonial America. The English arrive to take their land. A commander from England falls in love with her etc. It could've been set anywhere else and been fine.
Find a generic Indian tribe somewhere in colonial America. The English arrive to take their land. A commander from England falls in love with her etc. It could've been set anywhere else and been fine.
Any possibility for a lesbian Disney Princess/heroine?
I assume we're skipping all the stuff about Frozen?
actually, i DID come up with one since the last time i posted here: a replacement for Little Mermaid based on the fairy tale Bearskin, though i think the film's climax needs some work:
Mephisto is supposed to be characterized as essentially being Hades from OTL's Hercules (partly because, in the TL i wrote this for, Hades is replaced by Juno in that film), complete with his auctioneer approach to deals, and is also implied to be one of the demons/ghosts from the Night on Bald Mountain segment of Fantasia, with Chernabog appearing at one point
for a little cultural reference, Judith remarks that Johan is "a silly man who needs a shave and wears a fur coat" when she first meets him. if you get that reference, you don't just getting a cookie, you're getting the whole jar
for visualization, i more or less decided that alot of character appearances are based on ones from both Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, particularly that Winkle looks like Maurice, Judith is either Belle or Ariel/"Vanessa", Heinrich is Gaston, Johan is Eric (though he becomes shaggier over the course of the movie), extras resemble the villagers from both movies, and Mephisto's human form looks like Grimsby or the asylum manager (and is probably voiced by Tony Jay) while his demon form is the villain from The Goddess of Spring
Mephisto is supposed to be characterized as essentially being Hades from OTL's Hercules (partly because, in the TL i wrote this for, Hades is replaced by Juno in that film), complete with his auctioneer approach to deals, and is also implied to be one of the demons/ghosts from the Night on Bald Mountain segment of Fantasia, with Chernabog appearing at one point
for a little cultural reference, Judith remarks that Johan is "a silly man who needs a shave and wears a fur coat" when she first meets him. if you get that reference, you don't just getting a cookie, you're getting the whole jar
If only there was a way to rewrite the direct to video sequels from the 1990's-2000's as original stories, that would be awesome.
Jafar origin story (2019?)
Since they remade Sleepy Beauty with a twist via Maleficent (2014), I would actually really like to see them make a new version of Aladdin told through the eyes of Jafar. We could see how he became evil, maybe a LBGT love interest he lost somehow, how he achieved magic, where the heck he got that hypnotizing snake from, how exactly he got Iago and the job of vizir to begin with...
Furthermore we could learn why he wanted a magic lamp in the first place when he already had enough magical powers that he could have taken over Agrabah with it all anyway. Plus, people have already made YouTube videos about how, from Jafar's perspective, taking the kingdom away from an incompetent sultan, a selfish underage princess and a lower-class outsider actually makes him the good guy, a Fallen Hero or anti-hero -like character. So if Disney doesn't make a movie like that, they're missing out on a really a good opportunity for themselves.
But I'm having trouble thinking of whom they could get to play Jafar, Jafar's boyfriend (or whatever), Aladdin, Jasmine, Iago, the Sultan, and any new characters. Anyone have any ideas?
Since they remade Sleepy Beauty with a twist via Maleficent (2014), I would actually really like to see them make a new version of Aladdin told through the eyes of Jafar. We could see how he became evil, maybe a LBGT love interest he lost somehow, how he achieved magic, where the heck he got that hypnotizing snake from, how exactly he got Iago and the job of vizir to begin with...
Furthermore we could learn why he wanted a magic lamp in the first place when he already had enough magical powers that he could have taken over Agrabah with it all anyway. Plus, people have already made YouTube videos about how, from Jafar's perspective, taking the kingdom away from an incompetent sultan, a selfish underage princess and a lower-class outsider actually makes him the good guy, a Fallen Hero or anti-hero -like character. So if Disney doesn't make a movie like that, they're missing out on a really a good opportunity for themselves.
But I'm having trouble thinking of whom they could get to play Jafar, Jafar's boyfriend (or whatever), Aladdin, Jasmine, Iago, the Sultan, and any new characters. Anyone have any ideas?
Well apparently the HSM franchise is getting revived:
http://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/news/a40944/ashley-tisdale-wont-appear-in-high-school-musical-4/
http://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/news/a40944/ashley-tisdale-wont-appear-in-high-school-musical-4/