Alternate Countries (18th Century)

I’ve been thinking for the past few days about any possible countries that could’ve been formed in the 18th or 17th centuries. Your answers would be great...

Thanks,
Nick
 
Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia ( Orélie-Antoine de Tounens)
Empire of the United States of America ( Emperor Norton I )
Poland ( any )
 
I’ve been thinking for the past few days about any possible countries that could’ve been formed in the 18th or 17th centuries. Your answers would be great...

Thanks,
Nick

Kingdom of Hungary could have become independent... if that is what you mean..?

Epirus under Ali Pasha as an independent state as he was heading to such direction.

Egypt during the Russo-Turkish war of 1768-1774 under Mamluk rule
 
Kingdom of Hungary could have become independent... if that is what you mean..?

Epirus under Ali Pasha as an independent state as he was heading to such direction.

Egypt during the Russo-Turkish war of 1768-1774 under Mamluk rule
Interesting. I forgot about Hungary. I can see them becoming independent in 1740 after Charles VI dies either becoming a Parliamentary Republic or a Constitutional Monarchy. The question is who would be their King?
 
Interesting. I forgot about Hungary. I can see them becoming independent in 1740 after Charles VI dies either becoming a Parliamentary Republic or a Constitutional Monarchy. The question is who would be their King?

They might choose a German noble or a descendant of Rakoczy.

I was more thinking about Hungary getting independent after a successful Kuruc rebellion. Francis II Rakoczy can become king then.
 
I've been doodling ideas on how to move the Isle of Man out of suzeranity and back to being an independant Kingdom again - starting with Charlotte, Duchess of Athol (the last Lord of Mann) not selling the suzeranity back to the British crown in the 1760's.
 
May you please explain to me what that is. I’d love to know.

Basically a French eccentric travelled to Patagonia in the 19th century, became friends with a few Mapuche chiefs, and declared himself their king. Naturally, no one cared, be it other Mapuche chiefs, local governments in Argentina and Chile, or the great powers in France or Britain. Eventually he left Patagonia and was bankrupt so he sold his "title".
 
De Bougainville's settlement in the Falklands for France was probably doomed to be a bust, as by the 1760's Britain was master of the seas and before then the Spanish were too close in Argentina. But perhaps an alternate location could be found and a successful French colony founded which will later become an independent Francophone nation.

Perhaps while searching for the "great southern continent", the French find the uninhabited King Island off Australia and settle it, and from there conquer Tasmania?
 
I've been doodling ideas on how to move the Isle of Man out of suzeranity and back to being an independant Kingdom again - starting with Charlotte, Duchess of Athol (the last Lord of Mann) not selling the suzeranity back to the British crown in the 1760's.
Interesting. I don’t know how an independent Isle of Man would be.
 
They might choose a German noble or a descendant of Rakoczy.

I was more thinking about Hungary getting independent after a successful Kuruc rebellion. Francis II Rakoczy can become king then.
That’s also very likely. Maybe if the French were a little more forthcoming with support or if the Hohenzollerns accepted Rackoczy’s offer to become rulers of Hungary. There could also be a King from one of the French noble families.
 
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Interesting. I don’t know how an independent Isle of Man would be.

I'd imagine it would be more like Monaco or San Marino, a bit more like a sovereign Duchy or Principality than the Kingdom as we might consider them today.

The ruler is titled the Lord/Lady of Mann (and the Isles) but they frequently used the title King even when it wasn't independant, and all it would take is for the twenty-seveb year old George III to relinquish his claim in 1764 so that the Duchess wouldn't have to sell the suzeranity to the crown, and she would become Queen Charlotte, Lady of Mann and the Isles and her son, John, the Marquess of Tullabardine, nine at the time, would become Prince of Sodor (or some such heir apparent title).
 
Trans-Oconee Republic - the name was given after the fact. In any case, in 1794 Georgia Revolutionary War hero Elijah Clarke and a few others established an independent "state" in protest of the federal government ceding back part of Georgia (west of the Oconee) back to the Creeks. Long story short, federal and state troops put an end to this silliness.
 
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I know it's cliche, but the United States collapsing was a very real possibility in its early history and, regardless how much such a scenario is explored in AH, I always find a partitioned US to be very interesting.
 
I know it's cliche, but the United States collapsing was a very real possibility in its early history and, regardless how much such a scenario is explored in AH, I always find a partitioned US to be very interesting.
A partitioned US would be a very interesting timeline. It would happen if the Constitutional Convention failed or if Washington died on the way home in 1787 (As he almost did).
 
A partitioned US would be a very interesting timeline. It would happen if the Constitutional Convention failed or if Washington died on the way home in 1787 (As he almost did).
Generally most scenarios seem to use the continuation of the Articles of Confederation as a POD. In a timeline I'm currently working on I Balkanized the US, however, it's in a world where the US loses the Revolutionary War and the British Empire collapsed two decades later, thus mixing things up a bit from your everyday Balkanized US scenario.
 
Catherine’s Greek Plan goes through and we get a Russian-puppet restored Byzantine Empire. You also get some Austrian Balkan princelings out of the deal.
 
I just read that Prince Henry of Prussia to to be made King of Walachia by Catherine the Great but that his brother said no and plans were discontinued.
 
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