What would be the effects of the restoration of the french monarchy? Who was the pretender at the end of the Revolutionary Wars?
Er, the Bourbons were restored.What would be the effects of the restoration of the french monarchy? Who was the pretender at the end of the Revolutionary Wars?
I've actually been curious; is there a map of the original treaty? Always wanted to see it.
I've actually been curious; is there a map of the original treaty? Always wanted to see it.
I've never seen one; it's mostly just referred to AFAIK. I reckon that it's probably because it's generally overshadowed by the final settlement.
Now that I think about it, was any of that set in stone? I thought negotiations were still ongoing when Napoleon finally returned.
Well, there is that map posted ages ago by Susano showing the provisional borders at the time of the Congress:
Er, the Bourbons were restored.
They could have restored the Papal enclave of Comtat Venaissin surrounding Avignon in the south of France for one, alongside forcing the state to return the huge swaths of church land seized since the Revolution. These were important revenue-generators and would hurt France as much as territorial losses.
Actually, I believe that even before Vienna it was decided that the Netherlands would get the Southern Netherlands, although the exact eastern borders weren't decided yet. So Luxemburg could end up Prussian, or the Rhineland, unlikely as it might be, could end up Dutch.
Too bad for Susano, because he always hoped Belgium would end up German.
They could have restored the Papal enclave of Comtat Venaissin surrounding Avignon in the south of France for one, alongside forcing the state to return the huge swaths of church land seized since the Revolution. These were important revenue-generators and would hurt France as much as territorial losses.
Which protestant or orthodox power would want to help the catholic church ?
I understand that giving the Netherlands was a result of trying to make a stronger bufferstate in the lowlands, would it be possible to give Baden Alsace/ Lorrie and maybe some of the rhein land to the north to make another counter balance.
Alsace, maybe. The Lorraine border of 1870 was based on linguistic borders, plus the fortress city of Metz, the first concern of which is unlikely to be of any concern to the Congress. If Lorraine goes, they'd take the whole of Lorraine, which is unlikely.
The Lorraine border of 1870 was based on linguistic borders, plus the fortress city of Metz
What about Austria, a Catholic power?
Not even close. In Lorraine only a few border cantons spoke a germanic language. The vast majority of the département spoke french. Even some territories annexed with Alsace never spoke Alsatian or a germanic language (the Welche valley, among others). The annexation of 1871 were never based on any linguistic reality.
Alone to restore the papal powers, when everyone agreed to stop making enclave and exclave ? Not going to happen. And this is the same with Mulhouse (which wasn't even a part of Switzerland to start with, only an ally).
Also, the main reason why France keep it's pre-1789 border is simple (even if everybody seem to forget it) : the coalition wanter to punish Revolutionnary and Napoleonic France, not Ancien Régime France. Why would you take away territories that were bourbon terriories. The goal was to restore the old order, not create a new one.
Not even close. In Lorraine only a few border cantons spoke a germanic language. The vast majority of the département spoke french. Even some territories annexed with Alsace never spoke Alsatian or a germanic language (the Welche valley, among others). The annexation of 1871 were never based on any linguistic reality.
Alone to restore the papal powers, when everyone agreed to stop making enclave and exclave ? Not going to happen. And this is the same with Mulhouse (which wasn't even a part of Switzerland to start with, only an ally).
Also, the main reason why France keep it's pre-1789 border is simple (even if everybody seem to forget it) : the coalition wanter to punish Revolutionnary and Napoleonic France, not Ancien Régime France. Why would you take away territories that were bourbon terriories. The goal was to restore the old order, not create a new one.
This is what you asked for:
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Well, there is that map posted ages ago by Susano showing the provisional borders at the time of the Congress:
EDIT: Beaten by Westphalian.