Alternate Aircraft Carrier name... If Gerald Ford dies a few years earlier...

[HelloLegend]

The biggest butterfly would be the naming of aircraft carriers...

then CVN 76 would be named Ford not Reagan in his honor of death (because Reagan would still be a living person). CVN 77 then would probably be named Reagan not GHW Bush, and CVN 78 would might not even be named Bush Sr. because of the tremendous unpopularity of the Bush Family Iraq Legacy by Dec 2006 (when CVN 78 name was picked)...

If the trend was to move away from naming after Presidents what would CVN 78 (the first of the Century 21 class carrier) be named?

 

[Fellatio Nelson]

USS HelloLegend

 

[HelloLegend]

This is not a humorous non political chat thread... its a SERIOUS history thread

 

[The Dean]

You've got a Churchill how about The Thatcher

 

[HelloLegend]

if we had a churchill it was certainly long ago before i was in.

 

[Fellatio Nelson]

WSC is one of your missile destroyers operating out of Norfolk. It's meant to have an RN officer among its complement.

USS Richard Nixon?

USS Martin Luther King? (That'd play well, albeit that the pilots would invariably be white and middle class, with almost all the Blacks being lower deck.)

 

[The Dean]

if we had a churchill it was certainly long ago before i was in.

http://www.churchill.navy.mil/

 

[strangeland]

The USS Ronald Reagan was launched before Reagan died. The USS George H Bush is under construction and looks likely to be completed before Bush dies. i don't think there actually is a law against naming ships after living people, though it does seem to be pretty rare.

I'm not so sure about naming a carrier after MLK; naming a war machine after a man mainly known for nonviolence wouldn't go over too well.

 

[Glen]

The USS Ronald Reagan was launched before Reagan died. The USS George H Bush is under construction and looks likely to be completed before Bush dies. i don't think there actually is a law against naming ships after living people, though it does seem to be pretty rare.

I'm not so sure about naming a carrier after MLK; naming a war machine after a man mainly known for nonviolence wouldn't go over too well.

Ah, but what about the USS El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz?

 

[cra0422]

There's a page that gives naming conventions for each class of ship. It's found at http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1339776.

Pre-Nuclear Age
Battleships = states
Battlecruisers = territories
Cruisers = cities
Destroyers = famous naval personnel
Aircraft Carriers = famous battles or famous ships
Submarines = fish

Nuclear Age
Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines "Boomers" = famous statesmen
Ballistic Missile Submarines = states
Attack Submarines = cities
Aircraft Carriers = Admirals or Politicians
Nuclear Cruisers = States
Cruisers = Battles
Destroyers = famous naval personnel

 

[CalBear]

WSC is one of your missile destroyers operating out of Norfolk. It's meant to have an RN officer among its complement.

USS Richard Nixon?

USS Martin Luther King? (That'd play well, albeit that the pilots would invariably be white and middle class, with almost all the Blacks being lower deck.)

Really? Invariably?

Got any stats to back that statement up?

 

[David S Poepoe]

Battlecruisers were not named after territories - those were the large cruisers of the Alaska class. The Lexington class battlecruisers were - predominately - named after Revolutionary War battles.

 

[HelloLegend]

http://www.churchill.navy.mil/

Being an "airdale" (Naval Aviation snob) I would have no idea what ships the Navy has outside of the 12 aircraft carriers that our squadrons use as temp airfield.

Being a West Coast Navy snob on top of that, I only give a damn about 4 of those 12 carriers. hahaha.

 

[Agentdark]

Not all carriers are named after Presidents, so :shrug:. We have the Nimitiz and the Stennis.

 

[Landshark]

Aircraft Carriers = Admirals or Politicians

And I've repeatedly told you to stop doing that.

 

[Tyr]

You've got a Churchill how about The Thatcher

Because Churchill was good war time leader who fought against fascism whilst Thatcher is the closest thing Britain has came to a fascist leader ever?

 

[MrP]

Because Churchill was good war time leader who fought against fascism whilst Thatcher is the closest thing Britain has came to a fascist leader ever?

*settles in to watch the coming debate about precisely what constitutes fascim*

 

[Wozza]

Because Churchill was good war time leader who fought against fascism whilst Thatcher is the closest thing Britain has came to a fascist leader ever?

The minor matter of privatisation might be a problem there.
Or the main complaint about Thatcher that she did not ensure lots of state provided jobs.
Or the matter of holding general elections.
Or the lack of people arrested for political crimes.
Or the cutting child benefits rather than implementing pro-natalist policies.
Media liberalisation rather than restriction might also be a problem.

In fact, why am I bothering? You are just being a troublesome northern leftist roustabout.

 

[Landshark]

You are just being a troublesome northern leftist roustabout.

That's my boy.

 

[Fabilius]

Really? Invariably?

Got any stats to back that statement up?

Isn´t it just common sense?