Alt-History Aftermath Scenarios Implied by Media

Well, I'd have to assume it blows its own cover to the point where the idea that there's something in the lake that can create undead puppets and it wants to take over the world has became common knowledge. This still leaves it fairly well positioned, assuming it has enough puppets to fortify around the lake against attempts at invasion by unassimilated humans. The puppets have the advantage of being neigh invulnerable against eighteenth-century weaponry, given that they run on necromorph rules* and have enough intelligence to use tactics and weapons, but are heavily limited in number if humanity can surround the Tarn's territory, leaving it with only a finite number of victims to assimilate, then wear said limited forces down with superior numbers and logistics**.

* They can't actually be "killed", merely dismembered to stop them moving. Matchlock bullets are completely useless unless they happen to break limbs, blades ought to be more effective.
** The Tarn has a deteriorating gothic mansion and village. Minimal manufacturing capacity for firepower.
Hmm I must get myself a copy of this book.
 
According to Neil Degrasse Tyson, Armageddon is no longer the least scientific film out there. Apparently, Moonfall has taken up the mantle:
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The book Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics claimed that The Core was the movie with the most Insultingly Stupid Physics out there; going so far as to claim it was 'so bad it is good'.
I had watched part of The Core myself and believe it to be 'so bad it is a waste of time to watch it' instead.
Though Moonfall might be worse than both; I don't knew enough just yet.
 
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The book Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics claimed that The Core was the movie with the most Insultingly Stupid Physics out there; going so far as to claim it was 'so bad it is good'.
I had watched part of The Core myself and believe it to be 'so bad it is a waste of time to watch it' instead.
Though Moonfall might be worse than both; I don't knew enough just yet.
Apparently Tyson said it was based on "scientific mistakes per minute", and "general science mistakes overall" ...
 
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The book Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics claimed that The Core was the movie with the most Insultingly Stupid Physics out there; going so far as to claim it was 'so bad it is good'.
I had watched part of The Core myself and believe it to be 'so bad it is a waste of time to watch it' instead.
Though Moonfall might be worse than both; I don't knew enough just yet.
Well, by that logic, The Core is definitely more stupid, because Moonfall can at least be really really really vaguely covered by the super advanced spacefaring ancient human-created AI tech involved with its entire premise, whereas The Core is neat to watch but the science is just ridiculous.
 
Believe it or not, the recent film The Creator (2023) currently in theaters, and on streaming, is actually an alternate timeline, wherein robots were invented sometime in the 20th century, but as a result, computers are decentralized and separated from each other. The film takes place in 2055-2070, but one will notice that there are no ATMs, no cellphones, no smart phones, and no Internet.


 
Believe it or not, the recent film The Creator (2023) currently in theaters, and on streaming, is actually an alternate timeline, wherein robots were invented sometime in the 20th century, but as a result, computers are decentralized and separated from each other. The film takes place in 2055-2070, but one will notice that there are no ATMs, no cellphones, no smart phones, and no Internet.


I've been meaning to watch this.
 
I think that even considering the unlikeness of the plot and the lead characters behaviour, still, I think that this '65 British-American movie 'The Bedford Incident' could have, supposing that it wouldn't trigger a world war, some interesting, (even if in the 'Chinese sense') consequences...


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No one has talked about Chainsaw Man yet in this thread it seems - Not everything is "implied", because we know that some events didn't happen, but not how the absence of these events affected the world & there are also details we don't know.
One character, a devil, has the power to erase other devils by eating them, and therefore also removing these concepts partially or completely from reality (only a few key characters seem to remember some details): in the past this has included removing a star (close to having the effect of an eldritch being over kids/humans?), other forms of "after-existence", the sixth sense of humans, etc.
  • The Great War is the last war known for the general population, and they simply don't fear war as OTL - tho there was a gun & violent crime panic in the second half of the XX century.
    *Speaking of these, the attack of a devil could imply (tho is not confirmed) that Hawaii could be a separate country of the USA.
    *Minor conflicts are implied? I suppose in the last colonial spheres and third world countries?
  • The Holocaust and the Nazis were eaten/erased - we dont know exactly what this meant in general.
    *It seems Germany is still united? But we aren't sure in which form.
  • Nuclear weapons dont exist, flatly - eaten too.
    *Tho there is not confirmation that chemical weapons or such dont exist.
  • The second part of the manga is right now in 1998-1999? And at least by 1997 (part 1), the Soviet Union still exists and has agents and contact with individuals over the World - we dont know if there is a Eastern Bloc tho.
    *China seems to be under one "General" (not named yet) - we aren't sure if its the Republic of China, or it in other form (I dont think is People's China tho)
    *There is no mention of Cold War in itself I believe
 
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No one has talked about Chainsaw Man yet in this thread it seems - Not everything is "implied", because we know that some events didn't happen, but not how the absence of these events affected the world & there are also details we don't know.
One character, a devil, has the power to erase other devils by eating them, and therefore also removing these concepts partially or completely from reality (only a few key characters seem to remember some details): in the past this has included removing a star (close to having the effect of an eldritch being over kids/humans?), other forms of "after-existence", the sixth sense of humans, etc.
  • The Great War is the last war known for the general population, and they simply don't fear war as OTL - tho there was a gun & violent crime panic in the second half of the XX century.
    *Speaking of these, the attack of a devil could imply (tho is not confirmed) that Hawaii could be a separate country of the USA.
    *Minor conflicts are implied? I suppose in the last colonial spheres and third world countries?
  • The Holocaust and the Nazis were eaten/erased - we dont know exactly what this meant in general.
    *It seems Germany is still united? But we aren't sure in which form.
  • Nuclear weapons dont exist, flatly - eaten too.
    *Tho there is not confirmation that chemical weapons or such dont exist.
  • The second part of the manga is right now in 1998-1999? And at least by 1997 (part 1), the Soviet Union still exists and has agents and contact with individuals over the World - we dont know if there is a Eastern Bloc tho.
    *China seems to be under one "General" (not named yet) - we aren't sure if its the Republic of China, or it in other form (I dont think is People's China tho)
    *There is no mention of Cold War in itself I believe
I've never heard of this concep before... he's like a human Death Note?
 
I've never heard of this concep before... he's like a human Death Note?
We don't know exactly why or how he (Pochita) has this power honestly.
In theory until further information about this he is just the chainsaw devil - which seems a concept pretty far to said ability to fucking erase things from existance lol

He literally just eats them.
He ate part of the War devil and thats why the Great War was the last one/people has less fear to war itself.
We know he ate the nuclear weapons/bomb devil so they just don't exist and we don't know how it affected physics.
He also erased the Holocaust and ww2 but we don't know if people still "dissapeared", came back or what.
 
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We know he ate the nuclear weapons/bomb devil so they just don't exist and we don't know how it affected physics.
Now the War devil wants him to puke nuclear weapons to make them exist again or something. We don't even know 100% if thats possible or how would re-write reality

In part the action of being ate by Pochita means complete erasure from memory and existance it seems.
This is deadly for devils because they exist in first place because of human fear, if humans forget the devil doesnt exist/it did not exist in first place...
(but Pochita can erase them even from the memory other devils it seems so, yeah, it's all still unfinished/weird)
 
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  • The Holocaust and the Nazis were eaten/erased - we dont know exactly what this meant in general.
    *It seems Germany is still united? But we aren't sure in which form.
  • Nuclear weapons dont exist, flatly - eaten too.
    *Tho there is not confirmation that chemical weapons or such dont exist.
  • The second part of the manga is right now in 1998-1999? And at least by 1997 (part 1), the Soviet Union still exists and has agents and contact with individuals over the World - we dont know if there is a Eastern Bloc tho.
    *China seems to be under one "General" (not named yet) - we aren't sure if its the Republic of China, or it in other form (I dont think is People's China tho)
    *There is no mention of Cold War in itself I believe

Not sure if it was ever confirmed officially but I've seen the interpretation that the world's borders match the interwar era's. So you got colonial empires still around, the USSR at their 1922 borders (sans the Baltics and Belarus and Ukraine not having their borders pushed westward) and China's in a perpetual warlord era.
 
The Mikado implies a world where Japan westernised so thoroughly that writing in Japanese is considered an aberration, and the society and aristocracy are anglicised enough that a local branch of the Anglican Communion has been set up (there's mention of an 'Archbishop of Titipu' in one scene, the said position being one of Pooh-Bah's roles), and the Imperial Diet has become a carbon-copy of the British Parliament. And this is even before we get into the creation of the position of 'Lord High Executioner' and flirting having been declared punishable by decapitation by imperial decree.
 
The Mikado implies a world where Japan westernised so thoroughly that writing in Japanese is considered an aberration, and the society and aristocracy are anglicised enough that a local branch of the Anglican Communion has been set up (there's mention of an 'Archbishop of Titipu' in one scene, the said position being one of Pooh-Bah's roles), and the Imperial Diet has become a carbon-copy of the British Parliament
That sounds like a interesting worldbuilding
Like the social consequences of a colonised Japan-
flirting having been declared punishable by decapitation by imperial decree.
How many times am I going to die in that timeline
 
That sounds like a interesting worldbuilding
Like the social consequences of a colonised Japan-

How many times am I going to die in that timeline
The reason for the weird Anglo-Japanese setting on the part of the playwright, W.S. Gilbert, was to use a fantasy version of Japan as a proxy for satirising British institutions. In real life there was a small number of British settlers in one or two of the port cities (enough that there was even a Japan-specific edition of Punch! published and circulated in Yokohama), so it's not a wholly-implausible notion.
 
No one has talked about Chainsaw Man yet in this thread it seems - Not everything is "implied", because we know that some events didn't happen, but not how the absence of these events affected the world & there are also details we don't know.
One character, a devil, has the power to erase other devils by eating them, and therefore also removing these concepts partially or completely from reality (only a few key characters seem to remember some details): in the past this has included removing a star (close to having the effect of an eldritch being over kids/humans?), other forms of "after-existence", the sixth sense of humans, etc.
  • The Great War is the last war known for the general population, and they simply don't fear war as OTL - tho there was a gun & violent crime panic in the second half of the XX century.
    *Speaking of these, the attack of a devil could imply (tho is not confirmed) that Hawaii could be a separate country of the USA.
    *Minor conflicts are implied? I suppose in the last colonial spheres and third world countries?
  • The Holocaust and the Nazis were eaten/erased - we dont know exactly what this meant in general.
    *It seems Germany is still united? But we aren't sure in which form.
  • Nuclear weapons dont exist, flatly - eaten too.
    *Tho there is not confirmation that chemical weapons or such dont exist.
  • The second part of the manga is right now in 1998-1999? And at least by 1997 (part 1), the Soviet Union still exists and has agents and contact with individuals over the World - we dont know if there is a Eastern Bloc tho.
    *China seems to be under one "General" (not named yet) - we aren't sure if its the Republic of China, or it in other form (I dont think is People's China tho)
    *There is no mention of Cold War in itself I believe
I forgot: Neither aids, the mount hio eruption (1707-1708, Japan) or Sons of Anarchy (SOA) exist
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Also the other things I mentioned here:
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Guns gore i cannoli

First off a whole New City named Thugtown exists (or rather existed) from at least 1860 (there's an Union State in the center of town and the stores sell Confederate War Memerophelia) until 1928 in the Middle of New York State, so that's probably going to lead to some butterflies, perhaps in Elections.

Then there's the scandal itself, the People will be livid when they realize the US Army lost to a bunch of Walking corpses, a handful of Mobsters and some random Enforcer with an M1911, not to mention the backlash when it's leaked that the US Government authorized the creation of Zombie Booze before then proceeding to just... LEAVE it all in Thugtown. You know, the most crime-infested city in the Country. Like, imagine what could have happened if some Villain who had goals other than ,,hurr durr respect and monies" got a hold of it back then! It was just LEFT in the Sewers, only guarded by an easily-bribable middle aged German Man.

Oh, and the main character (who is, by the In Universe Public, percived as a War Criminal becouse he's the only guy left to blame becouse everyone else in Thugtown is either a walking corpse, normal corpse or melted corpse) gets off scott free without any charges. Whatever judge gave that decision (and whatever douche gave him the job) should expect at best to be blacklisted from Politics and at worst a homemade explosive from people who lost relatives in the Massacre of '28. Butterflies again.

Also the fact that a GERMAN U-BOAT managed to get INTO THE GREAT-FUCKING-LAKES, steal a shitton of Zombie Booze (from, once again, a US GOVERNMENT FACILITY) without anyone except the Mob noticing (as opposed to, you know, the Goddamn US Army, being stationed 2 blocks away - like seriously the Lab is within earshot of the Quarantine Wall, and while granted it's the outer wall did NONE of the dozens of Soldiers stationed there suddenly notice bands of Nazis appearing out of nowhere in a supposedly ,,ghost town" where there should logicly be NOTHING LEFT ALIVE by then? That's going to hurt the Government's authority.

Also the same random mobster from before helped storm Normandy Beach and killed Hitler's right hand man (and the RHM's right hand man), he also killed every Nazi Soldat between Normandy and Bavaria so that's going to leave a mark on the Wehrmacht.

Also if the US Government salvages the Rosswell UFO then they can have Super Planes in 1944.
 
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