Allohistorical convergence pet peeves

Midas

There's not that many names to call the CSA as it was though. It doesn't bother me that its name would be reused: what bothers me is the state itself is virtually the same in every incarnation.

Snake Featherston said:
Yep. One of them was the Confederate States of North America.

Having found my Davis book these are the proposed OTL alternate names for the Confederacy: Alleghenia, Chicora, Atlanta, the Republic of Georgia, the Republic of Washington, and the Confederate States of North America. Yet despite these variations IOTL any alternate Southern secessionist bloc will inevitably name itself the Confederate States of America. :rolleyes:
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tormsen

SavoyTruffle said:
It always has to be Brandenburg. Sure, it's the Kingdom of Prussia, but the branch of the Hohenzollerns who rule Brandenburg were the ruling family.

Why can't we have neither ruling?
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So then the problem is that the same families: the Hapsburgs and Hohenzollerns, are always the powers. So then the question becomes who were likely other candidates. The Wittelbachs, I suppose, either ruling Bavaria or, even more perversely, Bohemia.
 

Max Sinister

Banned
Just one tiny detail, but though:

Ever wondered why Korea is spelled with K? In fact, this is because the Japanese (who had occupied Korea for some time) insisted on it. Why? Because they wanted that Japan came before Korea in the dictionaries and other country lists.

Thus, in ATLs where Japan is less wanked, er, successful, Corea should be spelled with a proper C, as most western European languages would do. (All except German and Dutch, I think, and even German used more C's in the past - Köln was Cöln for a long time, until Germanization happened.)

I will do a little retcon on my Chaos TL about the Corea bit, if I find the time.
 

tormsen

Well, Korea or Corea is still based on Goryeo, which was the name of a much older dynasty, which was popularised by Arab traders. There was an alternative name used in Italy early on: Cauli, also based on Goryeo and rather closer to the old Chinese name for the country: Gaoli.

Then, there is the fact that the name of the country in the 19th century was not even Goryeo anymore, but Joseon (Chosen in Japanese pronounciation). So a version of that could also be used instead.

My personal favorite alternate is Cauli, though, as I've never seen it used before. Then, subvert it again by having an identical C-to-K process, making it Kauli.
 

Max Sinister

Banned
Alternative names for Korea / Corea OK, but "Cauli" reminds me too much of cauliflower. I'd have serious trouble to take such a TL seriously, sorry. ;)
 

Ofaloaf

Max Sinister said:
Alternative names for Korea / Corea OK, but "Cauli" reminds me too much of cauliflower. I'd have serious trouble to take such a TL seriously, sorry. ;)
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Say, is there any connection between the two? Maybe the Italians named Cauliflower after something they saw out east...
 

maverick

Banned
Seriously, the whole "Japan wanted it to be Korea, not Corea" sounds like a weird thing Hurgan would say about Germany.
 

Nivek

maverick said:
Seriously, the whole "Japan wanted it to be Korea, not Corea" sounds like a weird thing Hurgan would say about Germany.
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But knowing the Japanese credible.. thanks for the tips(but that means if a germanic/scandinavian state make colony we stilll gona have Korea with K, even in Spanish I still write Korea with K than C)

And in Hurgan Mind Poland meand: playgroun of Germany and Russia
 

Ofaloaf

Emperor Norton I said:
Random knowledge: There's an old rumor that the Japanese changed "Corea" to "Korea" because K came after J in the alphabet.
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Mmyup. ....
Max Sinister said:
Ever wondered why Korea is spelled with K? In fact, this is because the Japanese (who had occupied Korea for some time) insisted on it. Why? Because they wanted that Japan came before Korea in the dictionaries and other country lists.
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Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy said:
http://www.monster-island.net/2005/05/korea-versus-corea.html
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