Allied Japan, Axis Spain and Russia

I have seen a few "Allied Japan" and "Axis Spain" threads, but no "Axis Russia" threads, and no thread with the conditions that I've listed in the title of the thread.

I understand that Hitler saw Communism as "a major enemy of the German people", but he also allied himself with Japan, whose people were honorary Aryans (read: we'll be nice - for now).

Such a situation would most likely involve Japan's military not being able to wrestle control of the country from the actual rulers, no Spanish Civil War (so Spain has the ability to enter the war) and the White Army winning the Russian Civil War.

Would the US enter the war, with no Pearl Harbor and the isolationist movements that were present at the time?
 
It wasn't just communism
It was slavs . It was the number of Jews.. It was hate.. It was deeper than communism . Germans were willing to play until 41.. Too strong of a Soviet union and then they are the threat.

But it wasn't communism so much as that made it simpler to focus on.

Was An axis Russia possible . For a year or so.. At which time one back stabs the other

That said if it was to work Then well.. They pretty run the table. But I just don't see it as stable, too many competing interests involved, combined with the soviet army wasn't ready.

What do the Americans do?

That's a good question, the brits will do anything to get them in.
 
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I can do Allied Japan and Axis USSR, here's the TL I've been working on for the last month or so: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...vipers-a-tl-of-the-berlin-moscow-axis.457464/
The scenario comes about after Japan wins at Nomonhan, the situation escalates out of control and Stalin declares a full-on war against Japan in response, and then Germany failing to take France down in 1940 means that they never get to launch Barbarossa. Otherwise one of Hitler or Stalin is going to betray the alliance at some point - neither of them saw the M-R pact as anything more than a way to get time.

Such a situation would most likely involve Japan's military not being able to wrestle control of the country from the actual rulers, no Spanish Civil War (so Spain has the ability to enter the war) and the White Army winning the Russian Civil War.

IIRC the Japanese military had taken control of the government in 1928 or thereabouts, and the White Army winning requires a 1919 PoD at the latest. Which is early enough that a butterfly knocks Hitler off the path to becoming Fuhrer, and we don't have a WW2 that we recognise.

Would the US enter the war, with no Pearl Harbor and the isolationist movements that were present at the time?
Lend Lease started in March 1941, and Roosevelt was doing stuff even before that, so as long as Germany is causing trouble (and invading France is a good definition of trouble), US intervention is likely if the war drags on too long. If Stalin or Franco are in the Axis, I would imagine that it becomes more urgent to enter the war than OTL: Churchill is facing tougher odds.

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Now to answer your more complete scenario, I'll assume the following:
  • Stalin gets power as OTL
  • Japan wins more convincingly at Shanghai and forces Chiang Kai-Shek to make some sort of peace arrangement - China was an important US trading partner so this reduces the awkwardness of the scenario a fair bit, plus if Japan is fully committed against China they can't do much on land otherwise.
  • Spanish Civil War is fairly short with Nationalist victory in late 1936.
  • Hitler does as OTL until Sept 1939
  • Stalin and Hitler both intend to actually keep the M-R pact (as I said above, not terribly likely without some external force persuading them not to break it).
Allied Japan and Axis USSR means the two will fight. I remember reading somewhere that in 1938 Japan's economy was about two-thirds the size of USSR's, if that is even close to true then the front will stall somewhere in Korea, Manchuria or just north of the Amur - the Red Army can't supply an infinite amount of troops on the Trans Siberian Railroad (OTL August Storm was pushing it), while the further the Japanese get from Harbin, the worse their logistics get. Japan had 2M soldiers able to fight, so they can definitely maintain some position.

Axis Spain on the other hand means that France falls at some point in 1940 - either from the need for France to send units to defend against the Spanish, or more likely they simply join after France falls, after being promised "German" (Soviet import) grain and oil so they don't have to trade with America. D-Day in these conditions is impossible, Germany can cover the Atlantic coast with 4x the forces they did IOTL from troops not fighting on the Eastern Front.

Axis USSR probably gets backstabbed by Hitler in 1941, which gives you a scenario similar to OTL in Europe unless a major butterfly happens like Leningrad falls or Stalin chokes on a potato. Spain collapses from lack of food and the Allies pour in.
If Hitler doesn't backstab Stalin, a stalemate develops with two huge armies facing each other across the Channel (no, Japan is not conquering Siberia until it gets to Moscow). Either some negotiated peace or Germany getting glassed by nukes follows.

- BNC
 
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