Allied Forces in Korea, 1970s-1990s...

MacCaulay

Banned
why not an 'into the DMZ' game, with a gazillion minefields, infantry in forts, etc. Maybe you could work NKs infamous tunnels into it somehow (infantry squads popping up on the map at certain locations?) Just for fun, I solo gamed a "Firepower" scenario set in the tunnels, with SK troopers vs. NK infantry; on the mapboards, only the road hexes were actual terrain (the tunnels); all other hexes were solid rock..

oh...that would ROCK! I never thought of that!

Just a shit-ton of NKs at like 7:1 or 8:1 odds against Allied troops who've got mine fields and a bunch of artillery and airstrikes to call in. That could be awesome!

I'm wondering, though, what the exact mission objectives would be. Just pick a city behind the DMZ and tell the NK player "you've got to have X amount of troops in that city by turn X"?
 

MacCaulay

Banned
Those tunnels have got to be the stupidest idea ever actually applied into practice by anyone anywhere at any time.

A few weeks ago, I had two dreams. In the first, my wife woke me up because the news was saying a nuclear weapon had gone off and she didn't know what was going on.
The Second Korean War had started, and according to CNN a North Korean nuclear device was moved under the DMZ in one of the tunnels and detonated slightly behind some of the defenses, creating a massive hole that the North Koreans swarmed through. I went to the closet, and my uniform was in it, and I was honestly scared.

Then I woke up in a cold sweat. I went and got a drink, and came back to bed. Then I had a dream that I was at work, and the company that supplies our vending machines in the break room informed us they had lost the contract to get those awesome chicken fajita wraps that I like.


...truthfully, I'm not sure which dream was scarier. I also don't know what that says about my priorities. :rolleyes:
 
I'm wondering, though, what the exact mission objectives would be. Just pick a city behind the DMZ and tell the NK player "you've got to have X amount of troops in that city by turn X"?

maybe just 'blast a hole through the line that is X number of hexes wide'... there are a bunch of scenarios in the game like that already...
 

Cook

Banned
even stupider than the Russian 'let's mount a airplane jet engine on the top of a tank' thing?

It’s up there with the Panjandrum as far as badly thought out military engineering goes.

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MacCaulay

Banned
It’s up there with the Panjandrum as far as badly thought out military engineering goes.

Those guys look awfully calm for being so close to such a rickety death trap.

Well...all of them except that guy with is hands in his pockets who's looking at the ground. He just seems resigned to his fate...
 
would the tunnels actually work in a new Korean war? I know that the SKs find and collapse some of them regularly, but assuming that some survive, would they do any good? You'd think you could at least get some infantry squads through them. In Red Phoenix, tanks pass through them..
 

Cook

Banned
would the tunnels actually work in a new Korean war?

I suspect very badly.

Detecting,locating and destroying (crumping) tunnels goes back to World War One and is a lot quicker and easier than building a tunnel, especially through granite.

People trying to play up the threat of these tunnels talk of a regiment passing through the tunnel every hour, but since the tunnels are generally about two metres wide they aren’t going to be storming through by company or even platoon, they’ll be exiting individually, straight into the beaten zone of a South Korean machine gun position.

And since the tunnels all exit less than 1.5 km from the DMZ they aren’t exactly good for infiltrating deep penetration teams in covertly either.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/kpa-tunnels.htm
 
The Second Korean War had started, and according to CNN a North Korean nuclear device was moved under the DMZ in one of the tunnels and detonated slightly behind some of the defenses, creating a massive hole that the North Koreans swarmed through.

Wow. A 21st century Battle of the Crater. 8-|

I think someone should make an AH about this...
 

MacCaulay

Banned
Wow. A 21st century Battle of the Crater. 8-|

I think someone should make an AH about this...

The morning after I had that dream, I actually wrote it down in my story journal. It was such an unMacCaulay-like story idea that I had to make sure I remembered it, otherwise it'd probably have just faded away.

Lord knows I don't normally hear story ideas with "nuclear" in them that interest me in the least, but that one does have a few pieces there that I could sink my teeth into.
 
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