Alright.
Also how likely would Henry be to try for the throne should Arthur die early leaving a young child behibd
Hmm okay. Would Arthur be more like Henry VII do you think? Or somewhere in between?
most likely that he was born towards the beginning of the marriage (1487 or 1488) or towards the end of it (1498–1501)
I'd go for the latter.Alright that seems fair
And ah definitely.
You know that's giving me some extra thoughts. What's more interesting to people a Tudor family including s surviving Arthur, Edward and Edmund or a Tudor family which is Henry, Edward and Edmund?
Alright interesting why Henry and Edward?I'd go for the latter.
Could Edmund be pushed for the Church since 2 elder surviving brothers?
InterestingArthur is a must; he keeps Henry from the summit. That in and of itself is a more interesting timeline.
Well because you can still have the break from the Church but you've got an alternate succession with the son of Prince Ed who could be used to marry Queen Mary of Scots and then succeed Elizabeth/Edward VI.Alright interesting why Henry and Edward?
Interesting and you don't think a break couldWell because you can still have the break from the Church but you've got an alternate succession with the son of Prince Ed who could be used to marry Queen Mary of Scots and then succeed Elizabeth/Edward VI.
It might even allow for Anglicanism to proceed as Anglo-Catholicism rather than a form of Protestantism
Very unlikely, the whole break was to allow Henry divorces of his own choosing.Interesting and you don't think a break could
Come under Arthur?
Arthur running things? Henry not getting to choose his bride or even his path in life? (He'll get the day-to-day, but not the objective set by himself.) That's more innovative than Henry having two younger brothers to boss around.....
Also true.Very unlikely, the whole break was to allow Henry divorces of his own choosing.
While I could see cooler relations with the Pope I can't see a complete break to Protestantism coming from Arthur himself (a later successor could try though).
Perhaps if Arthur's relations parallel that of France you could see a Conciliarism 2.0
So how does this sound re a family tree:
Henry VII (b.1457: d. 1507) m Elizabeth of York (b. 1466: d. 1509)
Children:
Arthur I of England (b. 1486)
Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland (b. 1489)
Henry, Duke of York (b. 1491)
Mary Tudor, Queen of France/ Duchess of Suffolk (b. 1496)
Edmund, Duke of Somerset (b. 1499)
Indeed there was didn't count her as she diedThere was a Princess born in 1492, named Elizabeth, who died in 1495.
I've seen this Edward mentioned on Wikipedia, and am a bit confused. Is there more evidence that he actually existed than the single reference they include? Is it possible that he was just Edmund (someone hearing "the king's son named for his grandfather" and guessing the wrong grandfather)?Just BTW, you left out Henry VII's son Edward
I've seen this Edward mentioned on Wikipedia, and am a bit confused. Is there more evidence that he actually existed than the single reference they include? Is it possible that he was just Edmund (someone hearing "the king's son named for his grandfather" and guessing the wrong grandfather)?