Alexander The Great doesn't die in 323 BC

No problem, the legend will be in english:)

It will show the situation of this ATL after the treaty between Chandragupta and Alexander.
 
Originally posted by JP_Morgan
Sure, show the situation in the map. Hey, will the legend be in English, since apprently you only have a spanish language making tool from that one map? the last one didn't fully load by the way

Well, the last was in reality only an scan from an Historical Atlas (because this the legend was in spanish -the Atlas is in spanish-.

Unfortunately I am not a master on maps and I have not too much time for making a well done map.:eek:

Well, here is the map, although it is not precisely the eight wonder of the world, I expect that could serve to see more or less the situation in 310 BC (after the treaty between Chandragupta and Alexander).

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The map is based in the blank map posted by Diamond in the blank map thread.

Any error in the map please JP tell me it. I put also in the map the situation that I suppose is the same of OTL of the Quin State and the Warring states in China. Also I put the situation of the mayas in the map (in these moments the most large and organized state in America)

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Sorry for the rough map JP, I thought that I would have more time this week for make something better, but unfortunately I am having a week more busy that I imagine. Could be the weekend I try to make a map better than this:eek:
 
Originally posted byMax Sinister think Alexander's empire had a bigger part of Central Asia.

If youu read what Inaki said before,the map is after the treat that surrendered Central Asia to Chandragupta
 
The Life of Alexander the Great
Ptolemy agrippa
published 275 BC
Chapter 16 The
begnning of the second Occident-Indianwar and last years ofAlexander's life

Alexander, after crushing the Arab revolt, sat tight for a while and made a number of trips to places like Egypt, where he participated in a number of local religious ceremonies, and the former kingdom of Kush, where he found that the land was on a good way to being restored thanks in part of the effort of an Aphistocles who was in charge of devising expemental growing techniques to make the farmland more productive. Then finally, he would head to Pella, Athens, Sparta, and Corinth to remind the Greeks that, in fact, he was still their King, even if that meant he was the King Of many other peoples.​

Then not long after this, he would look at a map, and realize yet another piece of territory, this one north of Mesopotamia, had fallen outside the control of the Persian Empire, and had yet to swear alliegience to Alexander. So Alexander would embark on a minor campaign there, and defeat the Caspii and other local tribes rather easily.​

Alexander would sent his son to conquer Gaul which would last from 307 to 305 BC, and in the end would be largely succesful, depite some grumblings about the younger Alexander's aloof personality and lethargic leadership. Alexander would participate in the 304 BC Olympic Games like he did in the 312 and 316 games, which he won prizes in javelin throwing, running and discus in, but unfortunately would win nothing this time since he was 52 and not having as much energy as he used, causing him to remark that he had "surely shortened his life by at least another 5 years by doing this"

One like Alexander could not get over being beaten by Chandragupta and long sought a future and successful combat with him. The reasons Alexander had waited so long were the ever-high taxes, and a desire for a little bit of leisure time, but one like Alexander could not wait forever to redress his supposed grievance. In 302 BC, Alexander would travel to Nubia, and was able to get a commitment of a large part of the Nubian corps for a future campaign on India, and had some of the iron, which was very important to Meroe's economy, shipped to Babylon, which had been agreed on for an embarking point. Alexander would pray at the shrine of the elephant-like war god Apedemak with a number of Nubian troops, before heading to Pella, where his oldest son was to bring him alongfor the new Indian campaign, and also being his younger son Philip.​

In Babylon, Alexander would meet with the finest officers of his army, Antigonus, the aging
but still effective loyal general, Ptolemy another veteran, and a newer generation; Demetrius, Antigonus's son, who vowed not to let another disgrace like Carmainia happen, Chosroes, the heroic officer whose efforts saved Alexander from almost certain annhilation, and Nicomedes, an admiral from Cilicia.​

These generals Alexander would mobilize in his recurring effortd to conquer India known to some historians as the first "Hellene-Indian war" and to others as "The War of the Two Giants" . Alexander would sail from Babylon on March 22, and have Nicomedes, when they left the Persian Gulf, sail to take the ports of Barbaricon and Gwadar, and had a
75,000 mancontingent led by Antigonus to take thenand defend it agasinst Indian attack.
Nicomedes would then be able to box in the west Indian fleet and defeat them before the port was taken on April 22. Antigonus was confident that with the monsoon season approaching, the Indians would not be able to launch a strong attack. And he was right.​

Meanwhile, Alexander, not being bad at naval warfare himself, had just defeated the commanders of the other two fleets Indricuplagujap, and Nacrirjira, in a major battle with some tricky meneuvers and was able to mount a blockade of the west Indian coast. Now came the somewhat tricky part, covincing the south Indian rajahs or princes to accept an alliance agaisnt Chandragupta in exchange for local independence and some territorial concessions when Chandragupta was defeated. Alexander would land in Musiriz in Chera on May 2. He was able to get that, kingdom, Panda Chola, and Kalinga to ally with him. Anhara and the Cyngalese kingdom, however, refused. Andara would go so far as to attack the Chola kingdom and place heavy pressure on it. Chandragupta at this time had to put down a revolt in Bactria sparked by Alexander, but was still able to send some troops to attack Anhara. Alexander sent his son Alexander to conduct delaying actions, but a nasty rainstorm would cause withdrawal, and Anshara forces would likely have had control of most of the kingdom, if Chandragupta hadn't come back and realized the unstable situation. He would then launch an attack into the lack of Andhara, which was promptly defeated, because of Chandragupta's lack of knowledge about the area. This would however give an opportunity for Chsoroes, together with the rajah of Kalinga to launch a major counterattack at anharand eventually force a peace on them. The situation for the next several years
, for the most part, still remained uncertain, and often in limbo,, though Ptolemy would suceed in capturingAnuradhapura, the capital of the Cyngalese kingdom in Februry 299 BC. Alexander, not long after this, would once again desire personal combat with Chandragupta, and would make another expedition at the area controlled by him not long after the monsoon season was over. Alexander would suffer a number of naval losses before capturing the port of Sopora in on November 17. He would then continue to advance northwest, capturing Barigiza, and Uljani before finally meeting Chandragupta. Having a larger force this time, Alexander was able to hold his own in foreign territory, and managed to make Chandragupta withdraw, but the result was anticlimatic when Chandragupta died barely a few days after the battle. His son Bindusara would come to the throne. Under the advice of the still prime minister Chanyka, he did not seek a direct engagement with Alexander, and instead attacked Kalinga, which fell to him in September 297 BC.​

Alexander, at this point, was able to conquer at least most of west India, with Bindusara moving his capital east. In September he was starting to feel very sick, so he retired and sent Antigonus to temporarily take charge of the situation, while he went to stop the Cyngalese of Ceylon from revolting. The revolt was crushed in December, and Alexander was organizing another camapign agaisnt Anhara. He lay on his deathbed with his two oldest sons by his side. His last words were supposedly "So many worlds, and I may have nearly conquered them all!" He died on Janaury 13 296 BC at the
age of 59.One rogur doctor beleievs that the autopsy shows he died of a tropical diseases, possibly one transmitted by a flyting bug2]but much more likely, the Gods figured that such a mighty man like Alexander;'s time had come, and not before he was too old.​

Alexander acheived many great things in his life, possibly coming closer to being a god than any man has ever been, showing virtue in all of his actions, being a highly intelligent person
and showing acceptance for foreign ways no matter how strange they seem to others, like having a bust of the multi-armed
Hindu god Krishna, and abstaning from eating beef in his time in India.
[2] Some form of malaria probably
P.S. Sorry, no narrative this time. I need to go places.saturday, though, thereought to be.​
 
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JP_Morgan said:
If youu read what Inaki said before,the map is after the treat that surrendered Central Asia to Chandragupta

So or so, originally Alexander owned a good part of land in the -stans, along the river Jaxartes. On the map nobody has it...
 
Max Sinister said:
So or so, originally Alexander owned a good part of land in the -stans, along the river Jaxartes. On the map nobody has it...

My atlas shows that area as Sogdiana. And I do know of the river Jaxartes. It wasn't that much, but don't forget Inaki didn't have the time to make a good map. It could use some minor adjutment, I guess, but it does show land in the stans.
 
The king is dead! Long Live to the king!:)

Alexander the Great has died but his last campaign before his death has been probably one of the more hardfought and succesful campaigns of his life.

With the conquest of the Galia and for the moment the well done war against the Chandragupta empire, in this ATL the Alexandrian Empire is the most powerful state of all the Earth.

Originally posted by Max Sinister
So or so, originally Alexander owned a good part of land in the -stans, along the river Jaxartes. On the map nobody has it...

Yes, I am sorry:eek: mea culpa. I based the frontier in this region in the Bactriana Kingdom of OTL that more or less have the same frontier that the Alexander Empire but I don´t know what happens to me that I draw the frontier in the map more to south that it was in reality. As say JP is Sogdiana so controlled by Chandragupta. Well I make some minor corrections. I expect this map could be more correct.

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At least I think according to the historic Atlas that is the correct frontier, anyway as I say any other error please say me it (and thanks to Max to notice this error:))

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The Rise And Fall of the Alexandrian Empire
Demtrius Dionysus
c) 1998 Green Sea Publshing, Neo Damnoplis*


Chapter 6:Growing Problems in India


After Alexander's death, his son, known to history as Alexander the Younger would be unofficially be proclaime king in Barygaza, a city seized from the Mauryan Empire. Alexander, after this would then march north to Mathura, an imprtant place, because it was the crossroads between the south, east, and west. at this time, Antigonus, who was in taxila, decided to march into Bactria since winter was over.
Alexander would march east from Mathura, and would end up engaging Bindusara between Kanauj and Kausambi. Bindusara was not the tactician that hia father was, but he knew how to use his forces effectively It would be a bitted fight, and would end when Bindusara managed to drive through Alexander's exposed flanks, which cause Alexander to order an orderly retreat to Kanauj.​

Before we go on, a little bit must be be said about the treatment of the Indians serving with Alexander's army. Alexander had delberately excluded them from high positions, and had often used harsh words agaisnt them. He also placed high restrictions on the times and places they could practice their religion, which offended the Hindus greatly, and also offended the small number of Buddhists, though there was slighlty less to interfere there.​

Because of this and other reason's, a small group of disaffected Indians would go to Bindusara and tell him of weak spots in the makeshift fortifications that Alexander had set up at Kanauj. Bindsara would then, when launching his attack, send calvalry to distract the main part of Alexander's force, while the rest of the army would break through the weak spots.​

This was only partially successful, as the calvalry commander was incompetant, and only on two of the spots would the attack succeed. Alexander was thus able to make an orderly withdrawal with only sbout 17,000 killed and 25,000 wounded out of about a quarter of a million. Around this time, the monsoon season would start, which would make campaging impractical. So Alexander would head to South India and reach it on May 14.
Meanwhile, Antigonus had succefully invaded Bactria, and the Indian garrison surrendered, after dealing with a fire set by a pro-Alexandrian bactrian group. After that, Antigonus would head to Mathura
Alexander had found out about the Indians that had collaborated with Bindusara, and had grown even more suspicious of them, casting several of them into prison. Chola did not have the power to object, as the occupying garrison was strong. In Pandya, howver, when word reached the prince of this, the garrison there would be tossed out. On Ceylon, when news was heard of this, the Cyngalese kingdom was shortly reformed So Alexander marched into Pandya and defeat the Pandykans in a battle on June 8. However, the simmering anger of the populace was quite evident from the way stones were thrown at Alexander when he marched through the city.
Around this time, a ship would arrive in Musiriz. Macedonia had heard that Alexander was dead, and now wanted his son to come to Pella to be "officially" coronated. There were also threatning gestured of a Greek revolt if he didn't. Well, Alexander would have come anyway, since he was heavily pro-Greek, and had no wish to offend his native homeland. He would leave on June 12, get to Tyre on August 15, spend half of the month there, before heading to Pella and arriving there on September 22.
In the official ceremony, Alexander was officially proclaimed king of Kings by Olympias, who was around eighty years old at this time. Greeks, Persians, Phonecians, and Latins flocked to see the coronation. Many of them spent their time getting drunk and causing ruckus, which caused many complaints from the citizens of Pella, about the foreigners'"disgraceful behavior" even though Greeks were getting drunk about the samew amount.
Alexander's first act as King was to procllaim an end to the was between his state and the Mauryan Empire, because he was feeling a lot more comfortable now that he was home, did not have the same personal drive as his father,and because the situation in southern India was raphidly turning agaisnt them....

*Either OTL New York or Phildelphia. it could be any major Eastern Seaboard city, i haven't thought that much far ahead, but I'll only continue the TL another 100 years or so at the most, anyway.​
 
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main bedroom
main palace,
Pella, Macedon
September 23, 296 BC


The now-king Alexander IV paced around the room. He had just had to get away from that huge crowd, but he was glad that things turned out the way they had, and that his reign was now official.

He thought back to the first couple years of his life, whem he had not lived in this city. He could not recollect it, so he went further, to when his father arrived in Pella by the time he turned five. He could recollect having many joyous and woderful times with him until some months later, he would go to put down a revolt in Persia, and he wouldn't return until about five years later.

During this time, he would get courtiers that had been ordered to pack him off to Tyre to have a better view of the wider world. Alexander, unfortunately, was not acceptable of other cultures like his father was, and he could not understand why they ought to be given their due.
Upon being exposed to other cultures, while two of his instructors took him on a number of trips to Babylon, and one time to Bactria, he immidiately decided that he was not used to their odd ideas. Like in Judae and Persia, the religions were different, but they were the same in that they only worshipped one god. Alexander could not think of one god having charge over everything, and was convinced that Dionyses was in charge of wine and merriment, Artemis of hunting and so on. But some things he absolutely despised. And that incident with the elephant had not helped matters either. He was more careful to listen to his teacher Polythemes from then on.

And something must be said about his education. His father had provided for the best teachers for him, but, as they said themselves, they could not educate a boy that had a minimal interest in learning. Alexander had tried to pay attention, for, at this point, he had heard about his father being educated by the great scholar Aristotle, and how he was the greatest man ever to have lived. So he tried to pay as much attention as he could, but when it came to trignometry, grammar, and other such droll classes, his mind wandered and he could see himself on the front, fighting Africans, and stabbing them to bits over and over again. It reveals a dark mind, but the excessive blood made Alexander shake badly at the same time. Only the desire to live up to his father would make him want to fight later.
Then there would be that long period 316-314 BC where he would see the most of his father out of any time. His father would see him ride a horse, lift 200 pounds at twelve years old, and win an archery contest. Those are all things tjhat would seem to make a father proud. But there was the fact that Alexander would resent not having his father around and taking it out in various ways by saying that "Father you are a weak fool. You dare hesitate to fight our enemies?" Of course, that sort of thing would get him fired up, and cause him to shout obsenities about his courage being questioned, and it would make the young Alexander quail up.

Not to mention their views on different cultures. When his father tried to make Alexander try some olives, he flatly refused saying that he would never eat "that accursed black fruit from some empty land in the west!" And while making a crack about how black Africans were nothing but glorified monkeys, his father would become enraged and tell him that Africans, though primitive in some respects including relgion in some cases were not to be disrepected like that.

Alexander's opinion would harden even more in that category, and woudl help mold a personality that hated to have his decsions questioned, and one that fantizised becoming greater than his father. Oddly enough, in his father's presence, such thoughts disappered, replaced by ever growing shame and doubt.

He would finally get his chance to fight when his father in 308 BC decided to bring the tribes of the Caspii north of Media under control again. There, he would feel empowered after the weak primitives were driven back. By the Gods, he felt good there! In charge of a small unit, he charged straight at the enemy's main village and helped to cut off their supply lines, thus ensuring their defeat.

Not long after this, he would find a wife, marry and have a daughter and a son, thus ensuring dynastic continuity, though he had a feeling right that moment that he would have to struggle if his brother tryed to stir up more trouble, like when he expressed reservations on how he treated those dark-skinned, cow-worshipping, belief in reincarnation, dirty Hindus.

He would, however, not right away, get a chance to see his children born, for Alexander, confident in his abilties would put him in charge of a camapaign to conquer the land to the northwest of Italia reputedly inhabited by people related to tribes north of Thrace and northern Italy. His father, in essence, had decided to give Alexander a test, which his success would be based on for a future campaign in India.

And it was not easy. Alexander was convinced that anybody with such a low level of civilization had to be dirty, stinking, cowards on top of being savages. For the Gauls did not always seek open battle, instead taking advantage of their extensive forest to use hit-and-run tactics and barricades where it suited them. Not to mention the fact that his men weren't always as cooporative as they could be. After one dared to complain about attacking over a heaviy forested river, Alexander would have him whipped and then confined to the tent. Morale after that seemed to have gone down since then, since it took him roughly 8 months to reach that center part of the country, and his advance slowed down dramatically.
He would, however attribute that, to the battles getting bigger and more bloodier, and that the sneaky bastards getting more clever. He would slowly start to modify his views, and believe that anybody whose skin wasn't too dark could be treated as an equal, given that they would learn proper Greek ways.
Then came the crusher. After asking for reinforcements to take Prettanike, mostly because he found he needed to keep much of his army tied down throughout Gaul in garrison duty, he would be turned down, based on high taxes were causing some opportunists in Hellas to try to plot to reassert their independence from Macedon.

After returning home, he would have many violent arguments with his father, who would tell him ruling was much more than winning battles and seeking glory. It was about keeping the people happy, and trying to keep their support was vital to ruling a stable kingdom. Alexander's face turned red, and he started to run while his father yelled "Hey! Come back here!" His wife, wrote in her hidden journel that "doing my arrogant husband feels more like doing a corpse every day" . Needless to say, sex woudl stop altogether a few months after Alexander returned from Gaul. Alexander would feel so ashamed after that, he would go into a corner and cry often, but while no one was around. He would avoid attention.

One day, he was feeling so depressed,that he attempted to hang himself on a clothesline. He would fall off before succeding and somehow avoided breaking his neck. He would no doubt have made another attempt, but his father would tell him they were about to embark on the long-awaited campaign to India, and his spirits would immidiately lift his spirits...
 
What a sympathical guy. Hope he doesn't destroy everything what his father built up. Are there some more capable brothers around?
 
Originally posted by JP_Morgan
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Uff, some busy this week and saturday, but I have returned:D

Originally posted by Max Sinister
What a sympathical guy. Hope he doesn't destroy everything what his father built up. Are there some more capable brothers around?

Originally posted by JP_Morgan
would have to struggle if his brother tryed to stir up more trouble, like when he expressed reservations on how he treated those dark-skinned, cow-worshipping, belief in reincarnation, dirty Hindus.

Hmm, "to struggle if his brother" so Alexander has two sons, Alexander and ?.
How is this second son? as say Max is more capable than Alexander JR

Because this Alexander seems only to have inherited the rage and gains to fight of his father:(

Originally posted by JP_Morgan
The Rise And Fall of the Alexandrian Empire
Demtrius Dionysus

Fall, fall, aah that magic word ever feared by the empires, so Alexander IV will cause the beginning of the fall of Alexandrian Empire? (Hmm, I am remembering now Comodo of OTL Roman Empire, it seems some similarities in the character between Comodo and Alexander IV):(

And Bindusara is no doubt a capable king in the Mauryan Empire, the fall of Alexandrian Empire and the rise of Mauryan Empire?
 
Originally posted by InakiQuote:

Hmm, "to struggle if his brother" so Alexander has two sons, Alexander and ?.
How is this second son? as say Max is more capable than Alexander JR

If you remember back, Alexander had a son by his second wife named Philip, and he's been referred to a couple of times before. Basically, Philip is much more charismatic, more friendly, and just more likable than his brother. He lacks most of the basic tactical abilties, but a fairly competent strategist. Unfortunately, his love for the people doesn't quite extend to primitive people in Africa, but is not as bad as his brother in that regard.

Fall, fall, aah that magic word ever feared by the empires, so Alexander IV will cause the beginning of the fall of Alexandrian Empire? (Hmm, I am remembering now Comodo of OTL Roman Empire, it seems some similarities in the character between Comodo and Alexander IV):(

And Bindusara is no doubt a capable king in the Mauryan Empire, the fall of Alexandrian Empire and the rise of Mauryan Empire?

Well, no that would be too soon:p, and Bindusara can keep things together, but probably not expand too much . And what similarities? Alexander IV doesn't go amuse himself excessively on indulgences including bullfighting, but i guess you mean he has the stubborness of a weak man who doesn't let his decisions be questioned. Alexander will not have very much time for India, as several revolts relating to taxation will erupt, and expect him to become more suspicious of his brother. But expect him to embark on another campaign in India,(the northwest is decisevely under his control) because you may remember the book published in 275 BC, which mentioned him being in South India? Well, he will, oddly enough, have died by the time that is published.:p Which will lead to some more odd things, including his son experiencing a conversion to a certain major religion....
 
The Rise And Fall of the Alexandrian Empire
Demetrius Dionysus
Green Sea Publishng, Neo Daminoplis c) 1998 used with permission



Before we can say what followed, we must first address the situation in India. Alexander had left an officer, Mithriades, who supported his hardline policies against the Indians. He would not last long, and a group of Nubians, disgusted at being shut out of pretty much anything but menial tasks, would ambush him as he was on his way to a meeting with other officers, and stab him five times before he collapsed in a pool of blood.

The Nubians knew they would not last too long in a strange land without some sort of strong leader, as the situation would likely collapse. The didn't really have any high-rankign officers either. So they would support the candidacy of Antigonus, probably the most senior general and probably the most respected in the army as interim govenor.

Antigonus would then take steps to keep the situation from spiraling any more out of control. After sigining a treaty with the Mauryan Empire, recognizing his annexation of western India, he would remove the restrictions on the local religious practices remove troops from the main palace of the rajahs of Chera and Chola to ease their paranoia and possibly incurring the wrath of other high-ranking offcials, and gave them much gave compensation, if small, to soldiers and officers who felt they had been mistreated, in the form of larger salaries. After promising better treatment for Pandya, they again came back into the fold. Anhara, once again, confident in their power, even though they received a sizable defeat five years earlier, thought that the various states would not necessarily act in cooporation with the foreigners. So Antigonus fortified the border.

After his death on Decemeber 23 294 BC, unfortunately, the situation would start to degenerate. His successor, Sataxarxes, a Mede, knew the importance of working with local rulers, but lacked tact, and would make the mistake of insulting the rajah of Pandya, a cousin of the previous one that was overthrown in the last invasion. This man would then mobilize nationalist forces in late 292, and fought a five-month conflict that would end up with the defeat of the Alexandrians, because Satarxarxes decieded they had taken too many casualties. He would, from that point on, use tact while meeting with high-ranking Indians.


Chapter 7: Tying up loose ends, and the problem of Philip

Alexander would then settle down to the governing of his kingdom. But then, a revolt would start in Greece in January 295 BC, because Alexander had lowered taxes by only ten percent of their pre-war levels, and commerce was greatly hurting. So Alexander quickly occupied Thessaly, and would sail navies down to Athens and Corinth, both of whom were active in the revolt. His naval superioity was quickly established with the capture of Piraes Athens would fall after a five-month siege, all while attempts at smuggling food from unoccupied areas succceded in bringing food, sometimes literally right next some of the soldiers. It would eventually be discovered by a sentry who noticed the odd behavior of one of the ordianry citizens and Athens would last only another month before falling. At this time, Corinth was also being sieged, but would fall quicker due to being surrounded on four sides within seven weeks. The troops from that would then go to Sparta. Sparta, having a strong warrior tradition, fought like they were possessed, and tried to keep the forces of Demetrius, the general in charge of occupying the Pellaponnese distracted by attacking other places like Argos, remaining loyal to Macedon because of their traditional hatred for Sparta. But Demetrius would not be distracted, reaching Sparta by April 14, and occupied Messina on April 22, depriving the Spartans of a major source of their food.

It was, admittedly taking a big risk, but Demetrius had enough troops (about 45,000) to where he could spare some for Argos and other cities. The Spartans were strong, and defeated the reinforcements in a couple of places, but, upon the arrival of Alexander with around 30,000 on June 2, pulled troops from all other fronts to meet him. Alexander would reoocupy Messina, which had been retaken in a countterattack on May 12. He would then demand a surrender from the oligarchs of Sparta around this time, who promptly refused. But they were having a hard time holding out, and the reinforcements were trying to fight off by attacks by cities loyal to Alexander. So Alexander, not thinking of the reinforcements, and only thought the Spartans could hold out another five days, would offer surrender again on June 15, and once again would be rebuffed.

Then the reinforcements would arrive two days later. Being as they arrived from about three different araes, they would select Leonidas, named for the heroic king who died at Thermopylae, as their leader. Leonidas would try to find Alexander's weak spots and exploit them, even though he about half as many troops(about 35,000) as Alexander. Alexander, desperate to find a way to deal with the fierce Spartans, decided on a number of bold and tricky maneuevers which were somewhat out of character for him. It worked. Leonidas was routed, and his forces scattered. It would take about ten days to find and surround these forces. And even then, there were still stories of bandits who wandered the mountains, and attacked anybody that looked like a barbarian, and did so with remarkable efficiency.

Sparta would be occupied on June 21. Alexander was not a man like his father to destroy any city who would piss him off. But, at the same time, he knew a message had to be sent to the other Greeks cities not to think about ever revolting again. So he razed several buildings, had the two kings executed each in Athens and Corinth, and sold anybody who had fought agaisnt him into slavery. Needless to say, the fall and near-total detruction of the most fierce city in Greece would shock the Greek citizens into submission, and there were to be no more revolts during the duration of Alexander's reign. There were also revolts in Latium and Persia, but they were put down in roughly three and a half months,and didn't have any of the same heroic efforts of resistance

Philip would then pull his brother aside when he retuned to Tyre on July 7, and tell him that he though there should have been better treatment for some of the Latin revolters, who had been forced to watch a statue of their first king Romulus defaced. Alexander would brush him off and say he did not know the proper way to rule a kingdom. And at the same time, he thought Philip was interested in more power for himself. So he payed one of the sevants at Philip's house in Pella to keep watch on him. He would get reports of occasional meetings between Philip, some scruffy-looking barbarians, and a couple of people that might have been Arab or Egyptian, from their skin and facial features. Philip apparently was telling them how dissatisfied he was with his brother. Alexandee was not excessively paranoid, and so did nothing else, but it would raise his suspicions.

Alexander, however was starting to get reports from loyal satraps that collecting taxes was placing too much strain on them. Alexander throughly trusted these men, and so lowered taxes, since their was no huge reason to keep them so high anyway.

But, in the spring of 293 BC, Alexander would be bit by the conquering bug, and would decided to conquer a kingdom in northern Asia Minor known as Cappadocia . It's ruler, Ariarathes had been left alone by the older Alexander, since the had given him no trouble, and had acknowledged his sovreignty nominally. Alexander the younger was not happy about having a foreign ruler so close to his control, however. So Alexander would lead an army to Cilicia and then invade Cappadocia from there. The kingdom would fall under his control in about three and a half weeks. Ariarathes would walk out of the gate of the main capital to offer his kingdom to Alexander after it became clear the Capapdocians did not have the forces to resist for any longer.

So then after this. Alexander would impose a more authoritarian rule than his father. Taxes would remain at a constant high level to officially raise money for such things as better roads in Gaul, which had several cities built, but otherwise, not had much of it developed. And Alexander would also impose a tax on the Jews of Judea to practice their religion. This would lead to a revolt in Sepember-November 292 BC, which would prove surprisingly hard to put down. Despite that many of their leaders were on Alexander' side, they put up tenacious resistance agaisnt the armies that converged on them from three sides. After holding these armies off, from the area around Jerusalem, Jericho, Alexander would come himself and enflict a decisive defeat on the rebels. On advice of the leaders Alexander agreed to lower the tax on religion by half, but refused to abolish it altogether.

Meanwhile, Philip was using this as an excuse to pressure Alexander more to relieve the tax burden. Philip, guessing correctly that it was causing problems would travel around the empire and hear complaints from merchants and farmers that the taxes were preventing them from having many essential comforts, and that they were barely keeping their famlies fed. In Nubia, there even seemed to be talk of revolt, having many bitter feelings about what happened thirty years earlier.

Alexander, by this time was getting more and more suspicious. Then he would get what confirmed in his mind that his brother was plotting to overthrow. The servant he paid to spy on Philip's nightime meetings revealed that Philip had a number of officers including Chosroes, who had been set to succeed as satrap of Parthia, simce the current one, Mithriades was expected to die in the next few years, and Menelaus, an officer who had served in India. Apparently, Philip was trying to convince these men that Alexander was a bad king, and to try to not carry out his policies effectively.

Alexander, when he heard this news was not happy. Philip was essentially fostering division of his empire, and advoacating decentlization of a ridiculous order!:mad: It sounded like Philip hadn't convinced eevrybody but Alexander was starting to get ever more paranoid So he would order a small company of assassins to murder Philip, sometime in the evening, when it was known he always had dinner. Unfortuantely, for alexander, a friend of Philip's happened to be walking by, and leaned in the open door to overhear him. The events that followed would prove tragic......​
 
The narrative should be on in the next hour or so. Feedback or any questions about what I've posted so far? I'm looking to see if anyone else besides Max has anything to say(don't worry, that's not disrepecting you Max or anything) But, apart from MerryPrankster, it's kind of lacking
 
Philip's house
small street in Pella
March 23, 288 BC


Philip was at his modest Greek-villa on a small street that went off into the country. He was eating dinner, roast turkey, and some wild berries from Gaul, coupled with olives, and wine from Italia.

He was feeling much anxiety about his brother's policies. He was starting to realize that he would never get through to such a thick-skulled creature like him. So he had attempted to convince some fairly powerful people, and Africans unhappy with what they felt like was inferior treatement that they should let their concerns be heard. Though there were mutterings about being persecuted, Philip's magnetism, sincerity, and lack of fear of speaking his mind, made many of them say they would consider it. And the other said they would think about it.

But looking back, Philip thought this would overall make things more unstable. He had said, essentially, that the satraps in areas in particularly affected areas should work together, and it slowly started to dawn on him he was essentially asking them to act like they could control the king's actions. But Alexander was such a stubborn man that he would never listen to another's advice, unless it was relating to a serious problem staring right at him in the face. Philip sighed. Despite their disagreements, he never thought Alexander would try to have him killed. So maybe he could invite Alexander to his house and poison him if things got much worst....

All of a sudden, his friend, Aridiccas, who sometimes went to Tyre, burst in the door of the dining hall, causing Philip and his servants to stand up from the long, wooden table. The look on Aridiccas' face had a look of great urgency on it, and Philip knew not to disagree with any look like that, on top of shaking.

"Philip, I must tell you your life is in danger! Bad men sent by...!" Aridiccas shouted very quickly. "Whoa, whoa, slow down," Philip commanded, trying to sound casual. "Is it that urgent?" "Just let me tell you. Your brother Alexander has sent assassins to kill you. I went to his palace to ask for some gold to buy wine, since I had none on hand, and the palace was the closest place to go. Then I heard him telling these half-dozen men through a door in the palace that they were to kill you and enlist the Pella watch to help if anythign went wrong. I bumped into a wall in shock, and managed to duck in another room when the guards came looking for me,and they luckily concluded they were being too nervous. I got on the same ship as the assassins, and was trembling all the way. Good thing they didn't see me. They probably are a few minuted behind and....."ENOUGH!!" shouted Philip. "But you said..." "No more talking!" snapped Philip. "The nearest watch station is about two and a half mnutes from here. If we don't act quickly we'll be surrounded!"

So Philip would take Aridiccas, his servants, and his guards, and flee the manor. And none too soonn. For the watch were quicker than expected, and could be seen a couple of blocks away. "After him!" shouted their commander.Philip and his followers ran through the streets toward the west gate of Pella, dodging arrows and spears all the way. Philip himself would receive a spear wound, but would keep going.

They would spot the watch coming at them from in front, so they were forced to go a more roundabout direction, by wooden little houses, and a couple of temples, one dedicated to Apollo, another of Dionysus.

Then they would reach the gate which was blocked by about eightsoldiers. "We are so screwed....." muttered Aridiccas. "We're done for!" "Not so fast!" replied Philip boldly. (Break to OTL, .Cue A-Team music) He would charge straight toward the gate guards, dodge arrows miraculously, and threw his sword in an angle like a boomerang. It would end up beheading the heads of the captain and three of his guards. "Great, now you've disarmed youself!"shouted Aridiccas in disbelief. But Philip had always been good at mathematics when he was younger, and correctly predicted the angle of the sword would end up back at him. Aridiccas and the other companions of Philip gasped as it looked to aim toward his chest. But Philip caught the sword by the blade, swung it around, and deflected the watchmen's sword hits. He was possibly, an even better fighter than his legendary father. Aridiccas, and the others, given courage by this, would attack with their daggers and swords in some cases. Ultimately, all the guards in front would be dead. But the watchmen in back had caught up, and five of Philip's company had been slain with arrows. They were too late though, as Philip and his remaining companions fled out the gate(end A-Team music), and didn't stop running until they were in a mountain village at probably twelve at night

While Philip laid on a bed to have hso wounda treated Aridiccas would say"I never thought such a great warrior could exist!" cried out Aridiccas. "Hey, you obviously never saw me spar with my father"said Philip in a calm but at the same time bold-sounding voice. "Well, this has taught me one thing" said Philip in a normal sounding voice but growing louder and more forceful."There is no use trying to make Alexander give up by peaceful means anymore. From now on, we will fight, to rid the kingdom of that tyrant, and restore it back to the people! Are you all with me?" "Yeahhhhhh! shouted his original companions and the farmers in the hut he was in. They had ben hit hard by the taxation of Alexander, and they were not going to take it anymore.....
 
Originally posted by JP_Morgan
Serously, where is Inaki?:confused: I don't think he's posted all week. Very odd.
Uff! I am sorry JP, I had a week some busy: I had a new job, also I will enter this next week in the public administration as civil servant and I needed make some legal arrangements for the regional government in Barcelona and at last my father was operated of protesis of knee, so a busy weekk, very busy week.

But well I expect that now the situation is normalized: the operation of my father was very good, and the job situation is also normalized, so this means that I can post daily as I did before this last week.:) (also I have begun two timelines in Chingo forum about Sri Harsha had a succesor and the victory of Cyrus the younger in Cunaxa -I promise in a post to do some timelines in Chingo Forum- also I have some projects of continuing the timeline of Den Xiaoping and make new timelines in AH board.)

Hmm, JP looking at the segment about the beginning of the king Alexander IV in his government, he seems more capable than one thought, also he has some positive qualities "Alexander was not a man like his father to destroy any city who would piss him off" in fact I am having simpathy about this Alexander IV (at least in the fact that hes is very effective in the military campaigns), he is showing also his performance in cracking down rebellions, although no doubt that Philip seems more good person in ruling that Alexander ( a pity that is not possible a dual kings as Sparta although surely this only makes more possible in the case of Alexander IV a confrontantion against Philip because in this case Philip would have power)

So the last segment shows us the beginning of a civil war, I have curiosity about the next segment that I suppose will tell about the civil war.

I expect that at the end the two brothers could govern two empires, in fact the Alexandrian Empire is very large, although no doubt Alexander IV will have any gains to divide the empire with his brother, is possible if this civil war has a good initial outcomes for Philip Alexander could not more remedy to pact to divide the empire with his brother, hmm Alexandrian Eastern Empire and Philipian Western Empire (like Rome in OTL at the late empire).

Well, waiting the next segment with great interest, you are making an interesting work JP and also a very plaussible ( in my opinion) timeline about an Alexander not dies in 323 BC timeline.:cool:

Continue with this timeline please.:)
 
Iñaki I expect that at the end the two brothers could govern two empires said:
There probably won't be a split. The east, for various reasons including more wealth doesn't have the same amount of disstisfaction as the overall poorer west. The only place that might try revolting is Bactria. West India is pretty much ignored but can be said to be under a semi-enlightened, de facto independent administration at this point. Despite the rumors from Nubia, sizable garrisons in Meroe, and to the north in Egypt, and the lack of strong leaders at this point, keeps actions of revolt to a minimum. The aristocracy in Egypt and Nubia may not be treated as equal, but at least with less contempt, since they can help keep their people down.

Point is, Alexander will have more resources to focus on the west, which is where the civil war will take place. There might be actions that take place elsewhere, but they'll for the most part be isolated. Philip will command a huge army, which will make the conflict last a helluva long time.

Don't worry though. There won't be a total defeat of Philip, and he won't be killed. He'll escape to somewhere to hopefully fight another day, but by that time, his influence will be lessened, and Alexander will have a chance to launch a more succesful campaign in India.
 
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