AHQ What territories would have The Roman Empire gained after the siege of constantinople in 1453

I am currently making a map where The Roman Empire lasted until 1507 or longer and i would like to know what territories would the roman empire get after a victory in the siege of Constantinople? Thanks in advance for answering the question. I will also make a new thread about the map and add more information once it is done.
 

RousseauX

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How would the siege be defeated? Constantinople would likely become a city-state waiting to be conquered.
Mehmed II was actually on the verge of just giving up due to casualties/difficulty of taking the city, the Byzantines already repelled multiple assaults and the Ottomans were basically gonna "try one last time and then go home". He kinda got lucky in the final assault when Italian mercenaries paniced and ran when their commander got wounded. If the defenders had being a bit luckier 1453 would have just being one more failed siege of the city.

That being said it doesn't solve the problem where the Ottomans were just going to try again the next time.
 
How would the siege be defeated? Constantinople would likely become a city-state waiting to be conquered.
The siege was almost called off and nearly failed so in this alternate timeline that happens the question now is will the roman empir get any land in the peace settlement and if yes what lands would it get
 
The siege was almost called off and nearly failed so in this alternate timeline that happens the question now is will the roman empir get any land in the peace settlement and if yes what lands would it get
No they won't get any land in a peace settlement.
 
Mehmed II was actually on the verge of just giving up due to casualties/difficulty of taking the city, the Byzantines already repelled multiple assaults and the Ottomans were basically gonna "try one last time and then go home". He kinda got lucky in the final assault when Italian mercenaries paniced and ran when their commander got wounded. If the defenders had being a bit luckier 1453 would have just being one more failed siege of the city.

That being said it doesn't solve the problem where the Ottomans were just going to try again the next time.
i actually started writing my reply which is similar before you but you beat me to the punch
 

RousseauX

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The siege was almost called off and nearly failed so in this alternate timeline that happens the question now is will the roman empir get any land in the peace settlement and if yes what lands would it get
They aren't getting any land, in fact Constantine had already agreed to give up the land the Ottomans already took from the Byzantines and pay higher tribute if Mehmed withdrew.
 
They aren't getting any land, in fact Constantine had already agreed to give up the land the Ottomans already took from the Byzantines and pay higher tribute if Mehmed withdrew.
if the ottoman empire gives up on its own i dont see how the romans giving up more lands and paying more money to the ottoman empire maybe the best ottoman empire gets is status quo ante bellum
 

RousseauX

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if the ottoman empire gives up on its own i dont see how the romans giving up more lands and paying more money to the ottoman empire maybe the best ottoman empire gets is status quo ante bellum
The ottomans already took those territories, it was just acknowledging reality
 
Mehmed II was actually on the verge of just giving up due to casualties/difficulty of taking the city, the Byzantines already repelled multiple assaults and the Ottomans were basically gonna "try one last time and then go home". He kinda got lucky in the final assault when Italian mercenaries paniced and ran when their commander got wounded. If the defenders had being a bit luckier 1453 would have just being one more failed siege of the city.

That being said it doesn't solve the problem where the Ottomans were just going to try again the next time.
So if his monster gun blows up before making a breach in the walls he walks away? I doubt he'd live long after such a disgrace.
 
Only way they get land is if they first conquer it and hold it from enemy attacks. Considering they were barely holding out in 1453, whether or not the Ottomans withdraw, they can hardly gain anything.
 
they can't the problem is that they can defend the city itself but can't mount any offensive operations to retake territory
i was hoping the ottomans return to the anastasian walls but i am starting to see your point i am still hoping the romans get some islands in the sea of marmara
 

RousseauX

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So if his monster gun blows up before making a breach in the walls he walks away? I doubt he'd live long after such a disgrace.
yeah that was always a danger (political weakness) but by May the siege was looking hopeless anyway and there was a sense of let's cut our losses and try again later
 
Maybe the Romans could keep the city while the ottomans take over the nearby areas in constantinople by the romans no longer pay any tribute
 
So if his monster gun blows up before making a breach in the walls he walks away? I doubt he'd live long after such a disgrace.

Sieging and failing to take Constantinople isn't a disgrace. It is what happens to everyone who tries (with very few exceptions).
 
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