Ahmadinejad assassinated

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/world/middleeast/15tehran.html?_r=3&oref=slogin

In December 2005, a car carrying President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was ambushed when he was on a visit in the same province. The attack, near the city of Zabol, killed one of his bodyguards and wounded another. Further details of that attack have not been disclosed.

This was in Iranian Baluchistan, which has an active Sunni terrorist movement likely supported by the US and Pakistan. WI the attack had resulted in the death of Armored Dinner Jacket?
 

Thande

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/world/middleeast/15tehran.html?_r=3&oref=slogin



This was in Iranian Baluchistan, which has an active Sunni terrorist movement likely supported by the US and Pakistan. WI the attack had resulted in the death of Armored Dinner Jacket?

I think calling it a Sunni terrorist movement is a bit ambiguous, like calling the IRA a Catholic terrorist movement: yes, religion is somewhat relevant, but their primary raison d'etre is ethnic nationalism.

Anyway, things would be interesting in the Chinese sense. I don't know how things work with emergency presidential succession in Iran: would an anointed deputy succeed him automatically, would there have to be a new election, would the Supreme Leader and the Guardians decide? The response from the West might be significant.
 
I sincerely doubt that very much would change in terms of Iran's attitude toward all non-religious Islamic cultures. I may be mistaken, but I believe Ahmadinejad is a figurehead, while the Ayatollah is the "power behind the throne".
 

Eurofed

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The theocratic Guide and the power bloc of conservative Shiite clerics and Revolutionary Guards militarists that support him would find another power-hungry ruthless figurehead with a "I wanna be Hitler mk.II" big mouth.
 
The theocratic Guide and the power bloc of conservative Shiite clerics and Revolutionary Guards militarists that support him would find another power-hungry ruthless figurehead with a "I wanna be Hitler mk.II" big mouth.

Given that Ahmadejinad's diarrhea of the mouth had already proved problematic, wouldn't it be smarter to find someone ideologically acceptable who *doesn't* put his foot in his mouth every five minutes?
 

Eurofed

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Given that Ahmadejinad's diarrhea of the mouth had already proved problematic, wouldn't it be smarter to find someone ideologically acceptable who *doesn't* put his foot in his mouth every five minutes?

Armored Dinner Jacket may sound quite scary to us Westerners, but we aren't his chosen audience. He talks to the Muslim radicals, who probably get hardons every time they hear his nuclear Himmler wannabe crap. For those guys, you can never sound too nasty, when it's about Israel. And if it sounds scary to the Westerners whom the radicals put a notch above the Jews on the evolutionary scale, even better, double hardon. :rolleyes::eek:
 
Armored Dinner Jacket may sound quite scary to us Westerners, but we aren't his chosen audience. He talks to the Muslim radicals, who probably get hardons every time they hear his nuclear Himmler wannabe crap. For those guys, you can never sound too nasty, when it's about Israel. And if it sounds scary to the Westerners whom the radicals put a notch above the Jews on the evolutionary scale, even better, double hardon. :rolleyes::eek:

If ADJ's comments provoke problems for Iran abroad, it's in the mullahs' best interest to restrain him, regardless of how popular his commentary may be with the base.
 

Eurofed

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If ADJ's comments provoke problems for Iran abroad, it's in the mullahs' best interest to restrain him, regardless of how popular his commentary may be with the base.

Ahh, but do those have provoked *real* problems to Iran yet ? It has been years since he has been waving his nuclear buildup and his Hitler wannabe complex in face of the world, and we have yet to throw him a barely decent set of sanctions, god forbid anything stronger (although to be honest, a lot of that can be blamed to GWB Iraq blunder creating an immense wave of distrust and fatigue against radical suppression of rogue states; well done, George-boy. If you really, really wanted to invade an oil-rich state, couldn't have you picked the one that was a *real* nuclear threat and supporter of nasty radicals ? :rolleyes::mad:).
 
Ahh, but do those have provoked *real* problems to Iran yet ? It has been years since he has been waving his nuclear buildup and his Hitler wannabe complex in face of the world, and we have yet to throw him a barely decent set of sanctions, god forbid anything stronger (although to be honest, a lot of that can be blamed to GWB Iraq blunder creating an immense wave of distrust and fatigue against radical suppression of rogue states; well done, George-boy. If you really, really wanted to invade an oil-rich state, couldn't have you picked the one that was a *real* nuclear threat and supporter of nasty radicals ? :rolleyes::mad:).

We can't because the Russians and Chinese won't back the UN resolutions necessary to implement decent sanctions. Now if your argument was that King George 2nd spent his political capital on an asinine war in Iraq then you are partially right but lets say we decide to first strike Iran's nuclear arsenal with a conventional ICBM and then follow up with ground support aircraft to be really thorough. We need strategic bases to do that. Launching from a carrier isn't the best and neither is Israel. Carriers because they will undoubtedly be what the Iranian AF goes after and while Israel would love the opportunity to bomb Iran back to the Neolithic we know it would kick off WW3 if we let them so we needed a "friendly" Iraq to do it. In short we needed Camp Victory and some of the other strategic bases to lay pressure and squeeze Iran; combine that with the improving situations in both Afghanistan and Pakistan vis a vis terrorism and fundamentalism and you begin to see why George did it.

The reason most people (or at the least me) are pissed about the Iraq war is because the blood and treasure we wasted there really were wasted. We didn't find what we were told were there for (WMDs) and the supposed Saddam to Al Qaeda link has not been substantiated and to top it all off the domestic situation until the Troop Surge was going from bad to worse. The thing that really takes the cake for me is the complete and utter lack of preparation for the war that took place in the DoD. We didn't bring MPs and we didn't train enough interpreters to make it possible for us to communicate effectively with local leaders. This lack of ability to communicate and an inability to provide law and order is what made the War in Iraq as long as it was and as costly as it is.

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