AHC/WI: World War 1 with the three emperors alliance

What if World War 1 happened with the three emperors alliance in place? I know that Russia partially funded the assassination in Serbia, but this would also cause butterflies and the assassination would probably still go on and probably be funded by itself. The Allies would consist of Italy, France,Serbia, Belgium, the United Kingdom And its protectors / allies.
 
Unless Britain militarizes significantly prior to 1914, which if Russia and Germany are allied is far from impossible, then the German army reaches Paris within a few months under optimal conditions. Of course things could go wrong and the Russians could decide to be selfish arseholes and try to get revenge on Japan/Turkey/British India rather than send troops to help Germany.

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Japan could still join on Ententes side, meaning another Russo-Japanese War. They would disregard Russia, having beaten them in 1905. Fatal mistake.

Main German problem in West would not necessarily solved with CP Russia. There only as much troops as they can send before Ardennes tranportation (roads, rail...) gets bottled up, slowing down the offensive. No victory before Christmas, sorry. They would however slowly slug toward Paris, eventually capturing it.

Main difference will be Russian grain feeding Germany. No starvation.
This means CP is much stronger in prolonged conflict.

And since Russia is fighting away from its core territory (Far East, Persia, Kaukasus, Central Asia), they won't lose so many men they have to recruit too many peasants away from their fields (since their limit is transportation capacity, not lack of manpower), and this means no 1917 starvation-caused revolution.

German fleet does not need to fight in Baltic, meaning its easier to starve UK.
Russian trans-Siberian railroad is completed, so its relatively easy to fight Japan.

Alliance of Three Emperors wins in prolonged conflict.
 

LordKalvert

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Well the world would have partitioned by the Three Emperors. Don't know what they would want and who they would let join, but the French and British Empires would certainly be goners

They'll probably end up fighting each other over the spoils
 
Unless Britain militarizes significantly prior to 1914, which if Russia and Germany are allied is far from impossible, then the German army reaches Paris within a few months under optimal conditions. Of course things could go wrong and the Russians could decide to be selfish arseholes and try to get revenge on Japan/Turkey/British India rather than send troops to help Germany.

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There would be the old Afghanistan question between Russian Empire and British Empire, too.
 
I have many doubts you could get the Entente to the size you want. Imo Italy will probably stay out as it would not be orpotune to go against an unclobbered AH.

The same is likely for Britain. There will be no chance they will stand against the Three Kaisers, if they can twist it. They would clearly see the writing on the wall.

That lets Serbia hand in the wind. And will probably discurage France from helping them. So I could see a Balkan War number so and so against Serbia and that is that.

My thinking is that three of the four European Powers are on one side and Britain is likely to try and sit it out. In the background they will do everything to break it up. But openly the Kaisers are too strong.
 
What if World War 1 happened with the three emperors alliance in place? I know that Russia partially funded the assassination in Serbia, but this would also cause butterflies and the assassination would probably still go on and probably be funded by itself. The Allies would consist of Italy, France,Serbia, Belgium, the United Kingdom And its protectors / allies.

If Russia is Serbias ally, would Bulgaria be on the Entente side ? Would Greece fight alongside Russia and Serbia, its "Orthodox brothers" ? Would they Ottoman Empire be on the Entente side, maybe wantig back Bosnia-Herzegovina from k.u.k Austria-Hungary ?
 
An alliance between Germany and Russia (and I guess Austria-Hungary, though it would be more of a third wheel) would be, for better or worse, too powerful on the continent for anyone to throw themselves in its way. Serbia wouldn't oppose it, Bulgaria and Greece wouldn't oppose it...I don't think the Ottomans or France would oppose it either. The only way war could plausibly happen is if the 3E become dead set on starting it themselves.
 
And what about if you throw the United States in the Entente, let's say, by 1915? Difficult, I know, but just for scenario purposes. It's industry and manpower ought to be useful
 
An alliance between Germany and Russia (and I guess Austria-Hungary, though it would be more of a third wheel) would be, for better or worse, too powerful on the continent for anyone to throw themselves in its way. Serbia wouldn't oppose it, Bulgaria and Greece wouldn't oppose it...I don't think the Ottomans or France would oppose it either. The only way war could plausibly happen is if the 3E become dead set on starting it themselves.

What if they did start the war though? Do you think they could take over continental Europe if they were dead-set on it?
 
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