AHC/WI: Serbia won the Bosnian War

tuareg109

Banned
The solution to this, without hippies getting outlandishly pissy, is to essentialy carve up the state of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes into bassically Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia. Serbs and Croats will do assimilation projects in Bosnia and other places. This could essentialy prevent the bosnian war, the Kosovo war and all other shit-slinging. Or they could promote heavy Christianization, essentialy making Boniaks not exist and Bosnians taking their place

No! We must take this to its natural progression. ATL New York Times Headline, June 16, 1994:

FORMER-, EX-, ISLAMO-, CROATO-, AND SERBO-YUGOSLAVS SICK OF WAR; EACH MAN DECLARED INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF HIMSELF

Mookie said:
You are overestimating the serbs there

I tend to go with this. It's not like my sources aren't biased, but from what my dad, sources, war reports, and common sense tell me, the Serbs should have bulldozed Bosnia early on. They had the JNA, they had all the weapons, they surrounded almost all Bosnian territory...it's a no-lose. Even Republika Srpska, with no Serbian help, had all former JNA stockpiles in Bosnia, and controlled the military bases.

I guess it comes down to what I said, and what Pellegrino Shots so recently reiterated: Everybody had somewhere to run to, but the Bosniaks were literally fighting for their very lives.

As for ethnic cleansing and church- and mosque-destruction: It's not the purpose of the thread, but I'll throw my two cents in. Both sides committed horrors, and both sides showed mercy. It all depended on where and who you were, and what you were doing. My dad's cousin knows a Hodzha (Imam, "Muslim Priest") who was cycling (not for fun, for transportation) during the war, and came face to face with Arkan. He was all alone, basically pissing his pants...and Arkan let him go. Yes, Arkan was a career- and war-criminal, and a horrible person to boot, but hell, he and others (on both sides) didn't destroy everything they came across.
 

Mookie

Banned
Not when the alternative was they get nothing. The Bosnian government would have been hard pressed to get more than a few rifles without corruption from the Croats and Serbs, and had Croatia decided to strictly enforce an embargo, they probably would have seized Mostar with little to no resistance. Now I can understand if the Croats were allowing weapons to go to the Bosnians early on as part of a strategy to weaken the Serbs. A Lightning victory for the Serbs in Bosnia would have faired poorly for Croatia in its fight with Serb rebels in Krajina, and so I can understand if the Croatians decided it was worth the risk to arm the Bosnians. But to say that the Croats were cool with the deal because they got to pick all the good weapons out of the bundle and sent what was left to the Bosniaks just doesn't make sense. The Bosniaks were fightig for their lives, and were considerably tougher than either the Croats or Serbs expected. Some of the defenders of Sarajevo were armed with old bolt action Rifles early in the conflict, and yet they still held off the Serbs. The same goes for Mostar, where the Bosniaks were badly outgunned and held their own against the better armed Croat force. Giving the Bosniaks any weapons would have been a terrible idea.

If Croatia enforced embargo weapons could be smugled via Montenegro or trough Kosovo and Sandzak. The downside would be that we would have to pay local serb comanders to let it trough and made us unable to act against them for time being.
Yes, bolt action rifles and hunting shotguns were used at the start. One in 10 fighters had an automatic assault rifle. But we held out.
Now that I think of it, the only time Serbs could have won was the period untill autumn of 92 when we received some AT weapons from Pakistan.



Looks like you missed what I was saying. You claimed Arkan killed for purely nationalist reasons (even though you don't know him and thus can't know that), and that Delalic killed for purely "criminal" reasons (even though you don't know him either and thus can't know that). I believe that both were most likely criminals and psychos to whom nationalism was just a convenient excuse, but regardless of what their exact motives were, that doesn't make Delalic's (or Arkan's) crimes any less reprehensible.



No, they weren't. For example, the Church of the Holy Trinity in Mostar.



Many Bosniak villages in the Derventa/Brod region were unharmed. In fact, the Bosniaks from the region fought in a small unit within the Serb Army.


Delalic never braged or organized nationalist groups even during war.
Arkan on the other hand did.

The church of the trinity was destroyed by Serbian forces as they retreated so that the "turks" wont "spoil it with their filth".

That was until 93. Then they were all killed including the fighters of those units and their families.
 
I tend to go with this. It's not like my sources aren't biased, but from what my dad, sources, war reports, and common sense tell me, the Serbs should have bulldozed Bosnia early on. They had the JNA, they had all the weapons, they surrounded almost all Bosnian territory...it's a no-lose. Even Republika Srpska, with no Serbian help, had all former JNA stockpiles in Bosnia, and controlled the military bases.

I guess it comes down to what I said, and what Pellegrino Shots so recently reiterated: Everybody had somewhere to run to, but the Bosniaks were literally fighting for their very lives.

As for ethnic cleansing and church- and mosque-destruction: It's not the purpose of the thread, but I'll throw my two cents in. Both sides committed horrors, and both sides showed mercy. It all depended on where and who you were, and what you were doing. My dad's cousin knows a Hodzha (Imam, "Muslim Priest") who was cycling (not for fun, for transportation) during the war, and came face to face with Arkan. He was all alone, basically pissing his pants...and Arkan let him go. Yes, Arkan was a career- and war-criminal, and a horrible person to boot, but hell, he and others (on both sides) didn't destroy everything they came across.

Could be.

Also, I read somewhere that the old Yugoslav People's Army was in many aspects calibrated to be a core for Partisan resistance in the event of a Warsaw Pact invasion of the SFRY - that is was basically constructed, through specific training, organization and whatnot, as an army for guerilla warfare on territory where it could count on the support of most of the inhabitants. Back then, I thought it was a slight oversimplification of the JNA's structure and doctrines but there was probably truth in there after all. It has interesting implications for the VRS's relative lack of ability to make huge inroads in predominantly non-Serbian areas, (where it definitely couldn't hope for much support, and would actually be on the receiving end of guerrilla tactics).

On another note, I just realized how off-topic parts of this thread went...guess this is what happens when you make a thread about Yugoslavia.
 
The church of the trinity was destroyed by Serbian forces as they retreated so that the "turks" wont "spoil it with their filth".

I've heard stories that it was destroyed by Croats, but those appear to have been proven false when the identities of the perpetrators were revealed as Zulfikar Batlak, Sejo Pasic and several other Bosniaks.

Claiming that the church was destroyed by Serbs " so that the "turks" wont "spoil it with their filth". " (what silly excuse for logic is that supposed to be?) is just beyond ridiculous.

That was until 93. Then they were all killed including the fighters of those units and their families.

No, they weren't. Most fighters of the "Mesa Selimovic" unit are alive to this day.
 

tuareg109

Banned
Also, I read somewhere that the old Yugoslav People's Army was in many aspects calibrated to be a core for Partisan resistance in the event of a Warsaw Pact invasion of the SFRY - that is was basically constructed, through specific training, organization and whatnot, as an army for guerilla warfare on territory where it could count on the support of most of the inhabitants. Back then, I thought it was a slight oversimplification of the JNA's structure and doctrines but there was probably truth in there after all. It has interesting implications for the VRS's relative lack of ability to make huge inroads in predominantly non-Serbian areas, (where it definitely couldn't hope for much support, and would actually be on the receiving end of guerrilla tactics).

Absolutely. My grandfather was 6 years old in 1948, and he said they went into semi-starvation mode for the next 10 years or so. You ate chicken maybe twice a month, and beef or lamb maybe twice a year. Until about 1960, everything went to the army, because the government was anticipating invasion from East or West at any moment.

And that's the strength of living and fighting in the Balkans, indeed. Also, the Yugoslav Army evolved from the Partisan movement, which did exactly what you described: Raids and guerrilla warfare in mountainous terrain among a sympathetic populace--so that makes absolute sense.
 
To defeat the Bosnian side, Serbs would have had to destroy the Croatian Armed Forces first. Even after the Bosnian/Croatian conflict that happened in '93., Croatia decided to save Bosnia. Unsure why were Bosniaks helped again, but the Republic of Srpska had trouble holding back the Croats, in '95.
 

Avskygod0

Banned
Best solution:

Prevent the turks from ever coming close to the Balkans

No islamization would make the region infinite times more stable, eliminating every possibility of war

Even though that would fuck shit up and butterfly away everything
 
Not necesarily since medieval Bosniaks were a branch of christianity all of their own, so you would quite likely get three peoples with three different denominations sharing their living space.
 

Avskygod0

Banned
Not necesarily since medieval Bosniaks were a branch of christianity all of their own, so you would quite likely get three peoples with three different denominations sharing their living space.

Let me correct this one

Bosniaks are Muslim Bosnians, aka Bosnians with weird turk-sounding names
Bosnians are normal ones

So that means there was no Bosniaks in the middle ages, at least maybe near the end
 

tuareg109

Banned
Best solution:

Prevent the turks from ever coming close to the Balkans

No islamization would make the region infinite times more stable, eliminating every possibility of war

Even though that would fuck shit up and butterfly away everything

Or how about:

Give Turks a few more perks and have them succeed, conquering all the Balkans and holding it (much easier POD and more familiar world).

Eventually all people convert because of less taxes, eliminating every possibility of revolt.

Also remember, everybody was Christian before the Turks arrived, and there was still a lot of war in the Balkans. More war than there was when the Turks owned everything up to the Carpathian mountains, for sure.

Avskygod0 said:
Let me correct this one

Bosniaks are Muslim Bosnians, aka Bosnians with weird turk-sounding names
Bosnians are normal ones

So that means there was no Bosniaks in the middle ages, at least maybe near the end

Let me correct this one.

No, the names of a different culture are not abnormal or weird just because they are not your own. Dusan and Marko are as strange to me as Hamza and Zahid are to you.
 
Not necesarily since medieval Bosniaks were a branch of christianity all of their own, so you would quite likely get three peoples with three different denominations sharing their living space.

Wasn't Bosnian Bogomilism well into the process of conversion to Catholicism under the last Kings of Bosnia anyway?

Give Turks a few more perks and have them succeed, conquering all the Balkans and holding it (much easier POD and more familiar world).

Eventually all people convert because of less taxes, eliminating every possibility of revolt.

Also remember, everybody was Christian before the Turks arrived, and there was still a lot of war in the Balkans. More war than there was when the Turks owned everything up to the Carpathian mountains, for sure.

True, but there was a lot of war everywhere. It's was a feature of the medieval times that Kings and nobles squabble over territory or even their own egos on an almost yearly basis, not just here but in France, Germany...pretty much everywhere.

I also think a complete conversion to Islam of the entire Balkans is very unlikely. The Ottomans held the region for like more than 400 years, and huge segments of the population still remained Christian. Even with the extra taxes and sometimes pretty brutal treatment by the ruling elite. If the Ottomans pursued a more brutal policy, it might help with the conversion, but then again it might send the Christians into a near-constant state of uprising, seriously weakening the Empire.

With that rate of conversion, the Ottomans would need to hold on until, like, 2100? And even then there would still be plenty of Christians around, they would just be too few to start anything. Not to mention that by then, we might even see the Ottoman Empire secularize or something.
 

Mookie

Banned
Let me correct this one

Bosniaks are Muslim Bosnians, aka Bosnians with weird turk-sounding names
Bosnians are normal ones

So that means there was no Bosniaks in the middle ages, at least maybe near the end

No. Bosniaks are a people. A Bosnian is inhabitant of Bosnia regardles of his ethnicity. Even without islam there would still be Bosniaks and 3 religions in the same spot. Christian denominations, true, but that didnt help protestants or catholics from not waging religious wars on one another.

Given the region's history of guerilla warfare, America might well have gotten it thrown into Vietnam, with Depleted Uranium replacing Agent Orange. :eek:

America would never need to put boots on the ground. It could give weapons to 250 000 Bosniaks allready in the army, or provide more so that they can raise 400 000 men into army, and finish of the war in a year. Even sooner if there are airstrikes

Or how about:

Prevent Yugoslavia from forming in any shape, form or size. Both versions.

I agree. Yugoslavia should have never formed up. The mentality of certain members and their will to dominate others is what ruined it twice and what will ruin it the third time.

Wasn't Bosnian Bogomilism well into the process of conversion to Catholicism under the last Kings of Bosnia anyway?

Only because pope promised help if he converts. If pope doesnt send help and we defend ourself from Turks, you can expect a really pissed of christian Bosniaks who would revert to Bogomilism and maybe convert to protestantism with time.


True, but there was a lot of war everywhere. It's was a feature of the medieval times that Kings and nobles squabble over territory or even their own egos on an almost yearly basis, not just here but in France, Germany...pretty much everywhere.

And there would be wars with or without Turks and with or without Islam.

I also think a complete conversion to Islam of the entire Balkans is very unlikely. The Ottomans held the region for like more than 400 years, and huge segments of the population still remained Christian. Even with the extra taxes and sometimes pretty brutal treatment by the ruling elite. If the Ottomans pursued a more brutal policy, it might help with the conversion, but then again it might send the Christians into a near-constant state of uprising, seriously weakening the Empire.

With that rate of conversion, the Ottomans would need to hold on until, like, 2100? And even then there would still be plenty of Christians around, they would just be too few to start anything. Not to mention that by then, we might even see the Ottoman Empire secularize or something.

The Ottomans never pursued a policy of conversion during their rule of the Balkans. If they did Balkans could be 90% muslim in 100 years. Probably in 10 if they decided to do what Spaniards did OTL, and they even considered that when Granada fell, Sheih ul Islam prevented it then.
 

Angel Heart

Banned
Dang, I didn't expect so much activity while doing my due paper in linguistics. :D

I've been thinking about it once again and after rebooting my brain I have some ideas. As you may know the smybol of us Serbs is a white double-headed eagle with a crest on which a cross with the legendary CCCC is depicted, both elements that have their origins in the Byzantine heraldry. Fitting. Sometimes I like to believe that Serbia is the closest thing to a modern day Byzantine Empire especially in regards of neopotism, ineffective administration and a decadent leadership. A vestigal empire past its prime that step by step is cannibalized by her neighbours.

As World War II and especially the wars of the 1990s have perfectly shown us Saint Sava's slogan Samo sloga Srbina spašava (Only unity saves the Serbs) that is depicted on our eagle, is at best a utopic wishful thinking. Think of the Serbs as a schizophrenic hydra with many heads. In the 1990s you had following Serb factions:
  • The Republika Srpska Krajina
  • the Republika Srpska
  • the volunteers
  • the crypto communist SPS ruling Serbia
  • the Serb nationalist parties with special mention to the SRS and SPO
  • Montenegro
  • the VJ (Yugoslav Army)
  • the Serb Orthodox Church
  • Arkan and the Serb underworld
  • and of course the "liberal", "civil", "anti-war" elite aka the so-called "Second Serbia" (Druga Srbija)

To give you an idea how much of a hopeless clusterfuck this war was I've read of a pilot from Serbia who flew a plane of the RV VRS (Republika Srpska's Air Force) while fighting for the SVK (Serb Army of the Krajina). According to an interview Manojlo Milovanović (the VRS's number two after Mladić) said that Dudaković and his 5th Corps were buying ammunition from the Serbs. Meanwhile the Republika Srpska made a deal with Croatia to abandon the Krajina in exchange for fuel and ammunition. At one occasion I heard that during a battle against the Croats the Muslims paid the Serbs for artillery service while some elements of the VRS were allegedly hired by the ArBiH and the HVO as mercs in Mostar. The fall of the Republika Srpska Krajina and the Dayton Agreement discredited the nationalist wing of the Serb political landscape which for Milošević was a wet dream comming true. He basically greenlighted the biological disappearance of the Serbs in Croatia to weaken his opposition. Sloba always distrusted if not outright hated the army making the VJ more or less an entity of its own while the head of the secret service Jovica Stanišić was an agent working for the CIA. Under these conditions it's a wonder the Republika Srpska hasn't suffered the same fate as her Krajina twin sister.

How Drašković, Šešelj or anyone else would have behaved I don't really know. Though I can offer a possible alternate history scenario on what I would have done if I won the Serb elections of 1990.
My first step would be to read the writings on the wall, declare communism as dead and engage an aggressive dimplomatic offensive in trying to make the United States as an ally with the goal of becoming the Israel of the Balkans. When you have the backing of Uncle Sam there is almost nothing you can't get away with. As a bonus I'd also revive the "old ties" with France and the UK. Ideologically I'd play the Serb nationalism card and be maybe a mishmash of SPO and SRS.
If there is no way to save Yugoslavia, I'd give my fullest support to the SAO Krajina, tell them not to do any rash actions that may escalate the conflict with Croatia. I'd even tell the Krajina Serbs not to do anything without my approval, in fact they won't be allowed even to take a piss without me saying so. My long-term strategy would be to first see how the Republika Srpska Krajina takes shape and then insist on the RSK having the right to join Serbia. As a Plan B I would insist on the RSK being an "ultra autonomous" entity within Croatia (what IOTL was offered in the Z4 plan), basically a state within a state. In such an endgame Croatia would have an entity within that only listens to Belgrade and that is in a perfect position not only to obstruct but also to blackmail her into submission (more or less like IOTL the Republika Srpska or the Albanians in Macedonia). To an extend I could bully Croatia into becoming my vassal state in which case autonomy may even be better than independence or Greater Serbia. Propaganda shouldn't be a problem. If situation requires I can always play the Ustaša card, especially towards my new old allies from the NATO. My Ministry of Information could remind the rest of the world how we Serbs were their allies in both world wars and the horrors the Ustaše committed. If the RTS (Radiotelevision of Serbia) fails to create international sympathy for the Serbs then CNN, BBC and Le Monde will.

I would have used the same pattern for Bosnia and Herzegovina. If I fail to convince the Muslims to stay within Serbia or a rump Yugoslavia, I'd change my attitude towards Croatia and insist "only" on autonomy of the RSK while in exchange pulling back the JNA, paying some symbolic "reparations" and offering Tuđman his share of the Bosnian pie.

While in the end the AVNOJ borders may remain, the Serb para-states turned autonomous republics are, while de jure part of Croatia and BiH, de facto part of Serbia. As already explained above the RSK and RS would be the whips Serbia could use to whip Croatia and BiH into obedience like a ruthless dominatrix. If something goes wrong her new American, French and British allies can always provide the molten wax and the Japanese wooden horses while this ATLs equivalents of Z4 and Dayton are respectively Croatia's and Bosnia's gimp suits.
 
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Mookie

Banned
Dang, I didn't expect so much activity while doing my due paper in linguistics. :D

I've been thinking about it once again and after rebooting my brain I have some ideas. As you may know the smybol of us Serbs is a white double-headed eagle with a crest on which a cross with the legendary CCCC is depicted, both elements that have their origins in the Byzantine heraldry. Fitting. Sometimes I like to believe that Serbia is the closest thing to a modern day Byzantine Empire especially in regards of neopotism, ineffective administration and a decadent leadership. A vestigal empire past its prime that step by step is cannibalized by her neighbours.

As World War II and especially the wars of the 1990s have perfectly shown us Saint Sava's slogan Samo sloga Srbina spašava (Only unity saves the Serbs) that is depicted on our eagle, is at best a utopic wishful thinking. Think of the Serbs as a schizophrenic hydra with many heads. In the 1990s you had following Serb factions:
  • The Republika Srpska Krajina
  • the Republika Srpska
  • the volunteers
  • the crypto communist SPS ruling Serbia
  • the Serb nationalist parties with special mention to the SRS and SPO
  • Montenegro
  • the VJ (Yugoslav Army)
  • the Serb Orthodox Church
  • Arkan and the Serb underworld
  • and of course the "liberal", "civil", "anti-war" elite aka the so-called "Second Serbia" (Druga Srbija)

To give you an idea how much of a hopeless clusterfuck this war was I've read of a pilot from Serbia who flew a plane of the RV VRS (Republika Srpska's Air Force) while fighting for the SVK (Serb Army of the Krajina). According to an interview Manojlo Milovanović (the VRS's number two after Mladić) said that Dudaković and his 5th Corps were buying ammunition from the Serbs. Meanwhile the Republika Srpska made a deal with Croatia to abandon the Krajina in exchange for fuel and ammunition. At one occasion I heard that during a battle against the Croats the Muslims paid the Serbs for artillery service while some elements of the VRS were allegedly hired by the ArBiH and the HVO as mercs in Mostar. The fall of the Republika Srpska Krajina and the Dayton Agreement discredited the nationalist wing of the Serb political landscape which for Milošević was a wet dream comming true. He basically greenlighted the biological disappearance of the Serbs in Croatia to weaken his opposition. Sloba always distrusted if not outright hated the army making the VJ more or less an entity of its own while the head of the secret service Jovica Stanišić was an agent working for the CIA. Under these conditions it's a wonder the Republika Srpska hasn't suffered the same fate as her Krajina twin sister.

How Drašković, Šešelj or anyone else would have behaved I don't really know. Though I can offer a possible alternate history scenario on what I would have done if I won the Serb elections of 1990.
My first step would be to read the writings on the wall, declare communism as dead and engage an aggressive dimplomatic offensive in trying to make the United States as an ally with the goal of becoming the Israel of the Balkans. When you have the backing of Uncle Sam there is almost nothing you can't get away with. As a bonus I'd also revive the "old ties" with France and the UK. Ideologically I'd play the Serb nationalism card and be maybe a mishmash of SPO and SRS.
If there is no way to save Yugoslavia, I'd give my fullest support to the SAO Krajina, tell them not to do any rash actions that may escalate the conflict with Croatia. I'd even tell the Krajina Serbs not to do anything without my approval, in fact they won't be allowed even to take a piss without me saying so. My long-term strategy would be to first see how the Republika Srpska Krajina takes shape and then insist on the RSK having the right to join Serbia. As a Plan B I would insist on the RSK being an "ultra autonomous" entity within Croatia (what IOTL was offered in the Z4 plan), basically a state within a state. In such an endgame Croatia would have an entity within that only listens to Belgrade and that is in a perfect position not only to obstruct but also to blackmail her into submission (more or less like IOTL the Republika Srpska or the Albanians in Macedonia). To an extend I could bully Croatia into becoming my vassal state in which case autonomy may even be better than independence or Greater Serbia. Propaganda shouldn't be a problem. If situation requires I can always play the Ustaša card, especially towards my new old allies from the NATO. My Ministry of Information could remind the rest of the world how we Serbs were their allies in both world wars and the horrors the Ustaše committed. If the RTS (Radiotelevision of Serbia) fails to create international sympathy for the Serbs then CNN, BBC and Le Monde will.

I would have used the same pattern for Bosnia and Herzegovina. If I fail to convince the Muslims to stay within Serbia or a rump Yugoslavia, I'd change my attitude towards Croatia and insist "only" on autonomy of the RSK while in exchange pulling back the JNA, paying some symbolic "reparations" and offering Tuđman his share of the Bosnian pie.

While in the end the AVNOJ borders may remain, the Serb para-states turned autonomous republics are, while de jure part of Croatia and BiH, de facto part of Serbia. As already explained above the RSK and RS would be the whips Serbia could use to whip Croatia and BiH into obedience like a ruthless dominatrix. If something goes wrong her new American, French and British allies can always provide the molten wax and the Japanese wooden horses while this ATLs equivalents of Z4 and Dayton are respectively Croatia's and Bosnia's gimp suits.

And how long do you think that could last, how long would Croats and Bosniaks tolerate such behaviour before deciding to end with it?
 
Angel Heart said:
Sometimes I like to believe that Serbia is the closest thing to a modern day Byzantine Empire especially in regards of neopotism, ineffective administration and a decadent leadership. A vestigal empire past its prime that step by step is cannibalized by her neighbours.

Doesn't Bulgaria also qualify as the nearest thing to the Byzantine Empire in regards to those same flaws as Serbia?

So would Yugoslavia still try to seek out aid from Russia as well?
 

Angel Heart

Banned
70 000 is the number of civilians. Number of soldiers is 32 000.
Number of raped women and girls is 50 000.
With about 1.5 milion displaced internaly and externaly.

According to the Demographic Unit at the ICTY

Muslims
42,492 soldiers
25,609 civilians

Serbs
15,298 soldiers
7,480 civilians

Croats
7,182 soldiers
1,675 civilians

Others
3,058 soldiers
1,935 civilians

According to the Research and Documentation Center in Sarajevo

Muslims
31,270 soldiers
33,071 civilians

Serbs
20,649 soldiers
4,075 civilians

Croats
5,439 soldiers
2,163 civilians

Others
171 soldiers
376 civilians

+ 4,000 unconfirmed

And how long do you think that could last, how long would Croats and Bosniaks tolerate such behaviour before deciding to end with it?

As long as the world's leading nations say that both the RSK and RS are "facts on the ground". It's like OTL Kosovo and the Ohrid Agreement where respectively Serbia and Macedonia are powerless to do anything.

Doesn't Bulgaria also qualify as the nearest thing to the Byzantine Empire in regards to those same flaws as Serbia?

So would Yugoslavia still try to seek out aid from Russia as well?

Bulgaria had a more pragmatic approach to the post-Cold War era than Serbia.

Belgrade should seek help from anyone, but especially from the United States.
 
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