AHC/WI: Post-Salazar Portuguese monarchy restoration

Is it possible that the Portuguese monarchy could be restored after the fall of Salazar? It could be in a manner similar to that of the Spanish monarchy's restoration, or it could be completely different. Or is this completely ASB and I'm just wanking the Portuguese monarchy?
 
Unlikely, support for the Portuguese Monarchy was relatively low by the time of the Carnation Revolution, and the forces in play were probably more committed to Republicanism. It probably didn't help that Salazar, who ruled for most of the Estado Novo period gained support from Monarchist circles, which meant that such support dried up post-1974/75.
 
I doubt that. Portuguese monarchy wasn't very popular thing and even claimant was totally different branch what last Portuguese king was. You would be more monarchist Salazar before it would be possible. And even then you might need much earlier POD.
 
I think it's important to note the circumstances surrounding the restoration of the Spanish Monarchy. Juan Carlos I was groomed to be Franco's successor for years, and he spent that time feigning loyalty to Francoism while simultaneously meeting with exiles and opposition figures in secret. Then when he took power, it became clear that he'd never had any intention of following in Franco's footsteps, since he started introducing democratic reforms almost immediately. After he denounced a 1981 coup attempt made in his name, even the communists started praising him.

To sum up, it was Franco who brought about the restoration of the monarchy, and it was Juan Carlos I's commitment to democratic ideals that brought the restored monarchy legitimacy. These are circumstances that are difficult to replicate, even in Portugal, one of Spain's next-door neighbors.
 
Well Salazar thought about bringing Duarte Nuno (of Kaiserreich fame) back to the Portuguese throne after president Carmona died in 1951, but decided to keep the Republic anyway. It's possible to designate him as Carmona's successor earlier, but he problem is that Nuno himself belongs to the conservative Miguelist branch of the family, making it less likely that the monarchy is restored by the time the Carnation Revolution kicks in.

Maybe the revolution is more broad across ideologies and skewed towards a more centralist approach (from what I heared, the revolution is skewed more toward the left, especially from the Communists since there was a pro-Communist coup attempt a year later) and decided to choose someone from the liberal, Brazilian branch of the Braganza family like Prince Eudes as a ceremonial head of state.
 
Well Salazar thought about bringing Duarte Nuno (of Kaiserreich fame) back to the Portuguese throne after president Carmona died in 1951, but decided to keep the Republic anyway. It's possible to designate him as Carmona's successor earlier, but he problem is that Nuno himself belongs to the conservative Miguelist branch of the family, making it less likely that the monarchy is restored by the time the Carnation Revolution kicks in.

Maybe the revolution is more broad across ideologies and skewed towards a more centralist approach (from what I heared, the revolution is skewed more toward the left, especially from the Communists since there was a pro-Communist coup attempt a year later) and decided to choose someone from the liberal, Brazilian branch of the Braganza family like Prince Eudes as a ceremonial head of state.

Also unlikely

Portuguese succession laws means that the heir apparent must be born on Portuguese soil to claim succession. The Miguelists were able to get away with this (in one famous example, Franz Joseph placed Portuguese soil under the bed Duarte Nuno was born in just to circumvent this, and it's likely his father too (Miguel, Duke of Braganza) was also born under those circumstances.) The Brazilian line is not.

Plus, as above mentioned, the Carnation Revolution was more left-wing, and likely just as much, republican in nature. While they (the current Third Republic) didn't go for reinstating the exile laws unlike the First Republic. They also were not likely to allow a restoration whether under a probable Duarte II, Duarte III, or any Brazilian Braganza should they choose to revise the succession.

Also very impressed I can convey this on my phone.
 
I think it's important to note the circumstances surrounding the restoration of the Spanish Monarchy. Juan Carlos I was groomed to be Franco's successor for years, and he spent that time feigning loyalty to Francoism while simultaneously meeting with exiles and opposition figures in secret. Then when he took power, it became clear that he'd never had any intention of following in Franco's footsteps, since he started introducing democratic reforms almost immediately. After he denounced a 1981 coup attempt made in his name, even the communists started praising him.

To sum up, it was Franco who brought about the restoration of the monarchy, and it was Juan Carlos I's commitment to democratic ideals that brought the restored monarchy legitimacy. These are circumstances that are difficult to replicate, even in Portugal, one of Spain's next-door neighbors.

In fairness, while Franco was probably more a monarchist than Salazar, I don't think it was his intention to restore Juan Carlos. As a matter of fact, he wanted to avoid having a Bourbon on the throne because of his distrust of the family and because he didn't want another Carlist War, and only settled for the man at Otto von Habsburg's insistence, coupled with the fact his intended heir came down with a case of "death by terrorism."

Restoring the Spanish monarchy in the way they did I felt, was more a closer run thing than people think it was.
 

Lusitania

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What I believe is needed is a demise if Salazar eArlier late 50s or very early 1960s. Then someone like Caetano could both take control of country and bring monarchist to throne which eliminates the need for president and someone who constitutionally could sack him. If this is coupled with either a continued estado novo or gradual democracy we could have a continued monarchy in Portugal.

PS current Portuguese claimant to throne served in the colonial wars but was sent home for criticizing its conduct.
 
What I believe is needed is a demise if Salazar eArlier late 50s or very early 1960s. Then someone like Caetano could both take control of country and bring monarchist to throne which eliminates the need for president and someone who constitutionally could sack him. If this is coupled with either a continued estado novo or gradual democracy we could have a continued monarchy in Portugal.

PS current Portuguese claimant to throne served in the colonial wars but was sent home for criticizing its conduct.

I heard about that, but wasn't sure, as to what he viewed was wrong in how the war was conducted.
 

Lusitania

Donor
I heard about that, but wasn't sure, as to what he viewed was wrong in how the war was conducted.
He was a helicopter pilot and like any Portuguese served his country, did not go away to avoid service. Like many he was critical of the regime but his stature and ability for his words to be transmitted was sent away. Not like they could put him in prison or reprimand.
 
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