AHC WI Poland saved 39 Hitler loses by 1940

Still runs the risk of starting the war it's supposed to stop, and the small Polish force probably wouldn't affect much tactically.
I don't think the size of the force in Poland matters, provided it is communicated to Hitler that any move against them constitutes an attack on Britain, and thus will trigger the larger BEF in France to attack.

But really, as I said above, the best course of action for Britain re. Poland is to do nothing as far as security guarantees, since Britain is willing to let Poland sit under German and then Soviet occupation for into the 1990s.
 

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Would this lead to an earlier Cold War? If so, Western Europe will be stronger but so will the undamaged Soviet Union. The US still has a majority of global industrial capacity and still becomes the western superpower opposed to the USSR.

On the other hand, both the USSR and Western Allies will be unscathed and newly confident. Would some dispute in Eastern Europe a few years down the line lead to WW3?
 
.... The US still has a majority of global industrial capacity and still becomes the western superpower opposed to the USSR.

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But the US economy was still very stagnated, & industrial capacity rusting. The free trade policies that benefitted the US post 1945 were not in place. & it is not clear in this thread how much European money is actually infused in the US economy during the war & if that makes up for the loss of trade with the blockaded German occupied Europe. There are a lot of variables here & I'd not be suprised if the US economy remained stagnant for much of the 1940s
 
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8. The Poles fight HARD and manage to withdraw to the planned Lwow brigdehead, at which they can be supplied through friendly Romania.
How would you deal with the Soviet invasion that OTL ruined those plans? Are you saying the greater Polish preparation deterred them? But wouldn't that have consequences for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that would itself cause huge changes in all the leadup to the war?
 
How would you deal with the Soviet invasion that OTL ruined those plans? Are you saying the greater Polish preparation deterred them? But wouldn't that have consequences for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that would itself cause huge changes in all the leadup to the war?

The main problem for the Lwow brigdehead was not really the Soviet invasion - it was just the straw that broke the camel's back. The Germans had already encirkled the Poznan and Pomorze armies in the Battle of the Bzura. The small remnants that got away retreated to already surrounded Warsaw.

What remained of the Modlin army was surrounded north of Warsaw, while Army Lodz and Army Krakow had been destroyed in the field. Army Prusy did not have time to form properly before being over-run.

What was left was Group Narew and Group Tarnow and Army Karpathia which could have reatreated to the Lwow Bridgehead. Group Narew was cut off by the Soviets. The bridgehead was not viable with less than 10% of the original Polish army - but it was the Germans that destroyed or cut off 80% of the Polish army, the Soviets cut off far less.

By the scrambled and incoherent Soviet invasion, it is pretty evident that Stalin intended to let the Germans finnish off the Poles and walz in and take his part once that was completed - the Germans destroyed the Polish army in 2-3 weeks rather than than expected 3-4 months. If the Germans are unable to destroy the bulk of the Polish army and it retreats to the Lwow brigdehead, Stalin will probably wait it out. If Germany collapses, he can claim he never intended to invade Poland, if Germany wins, he can take his part of Poland while the Germans turn on France.
 

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What would be required for Anglo French strategy to include a serious offensive against the Western pasrt of Germany as soon as Hitler started the war and for Poland to be able to fight a bit more.

My picture has RAF planes flying to France the night of Septeber 1-2 war declaration in effect 4am Sep 3 and all Nazi air bases within a 100 miles of France hit by 8am.

Followed by armoured attack using air superiority
In OTL Poland loose quickly,becouse:1.Rydz-Śmigły was poor commander.2.All german tanks was in armored dyvisions,when 1300 polish AT guns was scatter beetwen entire army.Change that,and Poland could fight for months.
 
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