AHC/WI: Make the US support the Arabs and the USSR support Israel

Try to make the US support the Arabs and the USSR support Israel. What happens in the Arab-Israeli wars? How is the Middle east like in 2016?
 
Try to make the US support the Arabs and the USSR support Israel. What happens in the Arab-Israeli wars? How is the Middle east like in 2016?

Well, perhaps Truman succumbs to pressure from Marshall and chooses not to recognize Israel, in order to avoid offending the Arabs. Stalin takes advantage of the opportunity and supplies the I.D.F. with more efficient weapons, and probably form a "treaty of friendship" as late as 1960.
 
In the 1950s the United States largely did side with the Arabs.

Indeed, but we're talking about a whole different U.S.-Israel relationship. The arms embargo probably will not be lifted, investment into Israel will come only from the Eastern bloc, and AGAIN the U.S. doesn't recognize the Jewish state
 
How would this fly with the American Jewry, who were surprisingly influential for such a small population?

Would the Americans propose an alternative to Israeli Zionism, a sort of Jewish Autonomous Oblast alá Yiddish Policeman's Union?
 
I think if America sided with the arabs , Terrorism as it is today wouldn't exist snd maybe even 9/11 wouldn't have happened , those attacks were clearly because of American's friendship with the zionist state , having a socialist zionist governement after winning the 48 war will make the Americans very scared of losing the Middle east to the commies .
 

Minty_Fresh

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Ben-Gurion was an avowed Leftist but he treated the Communist Maki with almost as much derision as he did the almost brownshirt leaning Herut. So you would need the Communists to get in power somehow for this to happen. Perhaps have either a Communist coup against the fledgling Israeli government in the late 40s or have Zionist leadership not as allergic to the Communists as they were OTL.

If the Communists get into government in Israel, American support will be hard to come by.

As for American support of the Arabs, you'd need them to not be so friendly with the Soviets. Perhaps the Soviets neglect the region entirely, and the US uses that as a way to get friendlier petroleum contracts from the Arab governments.

As for Jewish Americans, you'd need for them to be more openly associated with the Communists for their influence to recede. The Rosenbergs were seen by some in the JBS as only two of many Communist Jewish agents in the US, and for those views to be more mainstream, you'd need Jewish politicians to deviate from the Liberal orthodoxy and openly form Social Democratic Parties or Movements friendly to the Soviet Union.
 

Minty_Fresh

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I think if America sided with the arabs , Terrorism as it is today wouldn't exist snd maybe even 9/11 wouldn't have happened , those attacks were clearly because of American's friendship with the zionist state , having a socialist zionist governement after winning the 48 war will make the Americans very scared of losing the Middle east to the commies .
The Israeli Government was Socialist up until 1977. The leadership of the Zionist movement was overwhelmingly Socialist and Secular Jews from Eastern and Central Europe.

It was only the infusion of Jews from Arab countries after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war and the subsequent conflicts that allowed Likud to take over, as these Jews were more religious and less politically leftist, mostly due to the crappy treatment they received from the Socialist establishment upon immigration.

There was fear in the US government of Israel going full communist, but after the 1967 War, which firmly established Israel as being against Soviet proxies, support increased. The Israelis until that war mostly got weapons from the French.
 
The Israeli Government was Socialist up until 1977. The leadership of the Zionist movement was overwhelmingly Socialist and Secular Jews from Eastern and Central Europe.

It was only the infusion of Jews from Arab countries after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war and the subsequent conflicts that allowed Likud to take over, as these Jews were more religious and less politically leftist, mostly due to the crappy treatment they received from the Socialist establishment upon immigration.

There was fear in the US government of Israel going full communist, but after the 1967 War, which firmly established Israel as being against Soviet proxies, support increased. The Israelis until that war mostly got weapons from the French.
Maybe getting rid of Nasser in Egypt would be the best option for a Communist/Zionist alliance, a proUSA egyptian president takes over and attacks the Zionists which make them running to the Soviets for help which in turn make the United states support the arabs ? What do u think ?
 
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