AHC/WI: Korean Manchuria

How would a Korean-controlled Manchuria look? Would it be possible for a Korean-Manchu commonwealth or would it be more colonial in nature? Would the population of Manchuria be mostly Korean or Manchu? How significant would be the cultural exchange if this happens? Would it be possible for them to form a single ethno-cultural identity?
 
How would a Korean-controlled Manchuria look? Would it be possible for a Korean-Manchu commonwealth or would it be more colonial in nature? Would the population of Manchuria be mostly Korean or Manchu? How significant would be the cultural exchange if this happens? Would it be possible for them to form a single ethno-cultural identity?

It would depend on how early the merger happened. Koreans considered Manchu to be barbarians.

I have a Korean (Joseon) / Manchu subplot in my Quasi-War series and I always feel I cam talking out of my ass as I don't know much about the region's history.
 
It depends on when this union starts. In the early days, I suppose it's possible for them to become one ethnic group. Later on, though, it'll become harder since the Koreans see the Manchus are barbarians.

On another hand, my TL features a Manchu Korea! :D
 
It would depend on how early the merger happened. Koreans considered Manchu to be barbarians.

I have a Korean (Joseon) / Manchu subplot in my Quasi-War series and I always feel I cam talking out of my ass as I don't know much about the region's history.

What I can see is, with no or failed Japanese invasion of Korea, the Koreans 1) subjugate Manchu barbarians under year rule and 2) with a population explosion from new crops such as potatoes and corn begin sending massive waves of colonists into Manchuria. This seems pretty much the most natural way of things.
 
Would a surviving Balhae have a Korean identity? Would it be plausible for them to unite Korea and keep their Manchurian possessions?

Alternatively, how plausible is it for Joseon to take parts of/all of Machuria, and how would they administer it?
 
Would a surviving Balhae have a Korean identity? Would it be plausible for them to unite Korea and keep their Manchurian possessions?
The ethnolinguistic makeup of Balhae is still a disputed topic, but no, it would likely have a "Balhae" identity that would be different from the identity that would be prevalent in the Korean peninsula. Ethnogenesis isn't very hard - a major European ethnic group with millions of people has emerged within the past few decades.

Alternatively, how plausible is it for Joseon to take parts of/all of Machuria, and how would they administer it?
It's not plausible unless you change a lot about how the Choson state works.
 
I'm surprised no one actually brought up Goguryeo. Would uniting the Korean kingdoms under Goguryeo instead of Silla have allowed them to hold their Manchurian possessions (especially against the horselords)?
 
I'm surprised no one actually brought up Goguryeo. Would uniting the Korean kingdoms under Goguryeo instead of Silla have allowed them to hold their Manchurian possessions (especially against the horselords)?

Maybe...any timeline that wants to make early Korea more powerful MUST mildly screw over (or do even more) the Southern Juggernaut AKA China. Fuck up China for as long as possible, keeping the devastation there (no plagues, no Mongols, etc.) means stronger Korea and Japan in the long run.
 
Maybe...any timeline that wants to make early Korea more powerful MUST mildly screw over (or do even more) the Southern Juggernaut AKA China. Fuck up China for as long as possible, keeping the devastation there (no plagues, no Mongols, etc.) means stronger Korea and Japan in the long run.

But stronger Japan and weaker China means weaker Korea (or no Korea) because of invasions.
 
Then, how's a surviving Goguryeo sound with a 7th-century POD? Silla is forced back south of the Han River, Yeon never provokes Tang China. Then Goguryeo picks up the pieces after Tang falls with An Shan Rebellion.
 
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