AHC & WI: Kansas is admitted as a slave state and secedes

[Rush Tarquin]

The challenge is to have Kansas admitted as a slave state and then secede as part of the CSA, preferably with majority popular support within the state. As I understand it, the odds of this happening are quite low, so try to show your work.

Secondly, how would this affect an alternate ACW if one still occurs? Does Kansas give the CSA much better chances at succeeding in seceding than OTL? Why or why not?

 

[Mikestone8]

Sounds like the mountain labouring - and bringing forth a mouse.

Assuming that Missouri is overrun by pro-Union forces as OTL (and there's no reason why a thinly populated state like 1861 Kansas should be able to prevent that) Kansas will soon be cut off from the rest of the CSA and itself retaken by the Union. Thereafter its history probably closely parallels that of MO.

 

[katchen]

Kansas would still communicate with the CSA via the secessioist Cherokee Nation and Stand Watie. And it would be an interesting question whether in this case Colorado would remain part of Kansas state. In which case we butterfly away "Colonel" Chivington and Wynkoop's "volunteers" and thus butterfly away the Sand Creek Massacre of several hundred Arapaho women and children in 1864.
Also, a slave Kansas would re-balance the US Senate as long as no free states had been admitted after California and before Kansas.
Now that I think of it, that might be the way to GET a slave Kansas admitted in 1850. Missouri permits some of it's western counties to split off from Missouri to organize a State of Kansas in 1850 with it's capital at Independence in order to get Kansas past the magic population size of 60,000 and Kansas Territory is added to it and admitted to the union as a slave state counterbalancing California. The South retains control of the Senate and many of the pressures leading up to the Civil War are butterflied away, at least until the next statehood crunch, perhaps involving Oregon or Minnesota whose statehood applications may be much easier to delay.