AHC/WI: Dutch retain New Netherland

With a PoD at any point after the establishment of New Netherland, have the Dutch maintain control of it until at least 1750. Bonus points if they retain control post-1800 and/or if New Netherland gains independence and keeps it.

How does New Netherland's survival affect the development of the area?

EDIT: Edited for clarity.
 
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New Netherland? I suspect you mean the area in what is today the Hudson Valley, New York state? Or do you mean Australia. There is a city of Netherland in Texas too, somewhere between Paris and Naples.
 
With a PoD at any point after the establishment of New Netherland, have the Dutch maintain control of it until at least 1750. Bonus points if they retain control post-1800 and/or if New Netherland gains independence and keeps it.

How does New Netherland's survival affect the development of the area?

EDIT: Edited for clarity.

I have an idea for a TL where the Dutch don't invade New Sweden and instead focus of strengthening the New Netherlands, preventing them from being taken in 1664. While the Dutch did get it back briefly in 1674, I figured that if it hadn't ever been under English management they probably wouldn't want it.

So let's say the New Netherlands stays Dutch through at least the 1680s. OTL, the next war that the English and the Dutch fought would be in 1780 - basically as a part of the American Revolution.

But here, the Dutch still have the New Netherlands. They might even later buy or take New Sweden (or the British will). Either way, there's a strongly rivalry in North America and probably back home. I think it's pretty inevitable that the English colonies will eventually conquer the New Netherlands, simply by sheer force of numbers - and considered that the Netherlands has a much smaller population base to work with, and were in general somewhat less willing to run completely roughshod over the natives, it's hard to imagine the New Netherlands developing as quickly as New England, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.

When does the tipping point finally occur? My money is not much after 1700 at the latest. OTL, there's over a quarter million people in the English colonies by 1700. Without the New Netherlands, it's probably a little smaller (or maybe larger, even? Who knows). But still a lot of people. New Netherlands OTL by that time is estimated at around 20,000.

Making it as far as 1750 seem pretty impossible without some external factors (mass importation of German peasants to New Netherlands? Some strange force keeps the English from taking it in another Anglo-Dutch War?)
 
Maybe something where the Dutch go on the offensive instead?

I know, that wasn't really the 'done thing' (usually going after sugar islands instead), but if say Pennsylvania was conquered by the New Netherlands, you'd have a decent-ish base from which to actually have a permanent addition to the American scene.

Add a bit of French success against New England or somesuch, and the English colonies might (if they DID conquer it) end up with something like Quebec in their midst.
 
If you built more regional identities, so that New England views itself as its own little mini-nation, and the southern colonies view themselves as stable and loyal planter kingdoms, you could have the New Netherlands survive as an ally to New England, perhaps. Independent because they provide a buffer against the much more populous Pennsylvanians, who themselves aren't really interested in conquering it because...well, come up with something.

Of course at this point it's probably not Dutch owned itself, and long-term probably merges with somebody, but it could last for a while.
 
If you built more regional identities, so that New England views itself as its own little mini-nation, and the southern colonies view themselves as stable and loyal planter kingdoms, you could have the New Netherlands survive as an ally to New England, perhaps. Independent because they provide a buffer against the much more populous Pennsylvanians, who themselves aren't really interested in conquering it because...well, come up with something.

Of course at this point it's probably not Dutch owned itself, and long-term probably merges with somebody, but it could last for a while.

Pennsylvania is trivially not interested in conquering it because Quakers.

Anyway, I can see New Netherlands retaining more of a cultural identity, though you're going to have to have to implement some method of either keeping the territory (call it New Amsterdam up the Hudson to at Albany and Troy, maybe even reaching across the mountains to get Great Lake access, though of course building a canal in a more westerly fashion to Lake Erie would be an easier method :D) from getting too many English immigrants, or making them assimilate into the Dutch culture for some reason.
 
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