AHC/WI: British-American war in the Early 1900s

Who wins the war?

  • The USA

  • Britain


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If this is soon after ww1 then It would be foolish to think Canadians would give any territory very quickly, the Canadian army was nothing to over look at the time.

yes but this is clearly going to have to be BEFORE World War I, as the US and Canada are allies beginning 1917 and it would require space bats to get the US interested in attacking Canada or the British in the 1920s
 
yes but this is clearly going to have to be BEFORE World War I, as the US and Canada are allies beginning 1917 and it would require space bats to get the US interested in attacking Canada or the British in the 1920s
I thought you were discussing defense scheme 1 (hence the posts about the japanese) which was developed after ww1 if i remember correctly.
It's also a bit of a catch 22 isn't it? Before ww1 I'm under the impression that the Americans were a paper tiger but after the war the CEF veterans are going to give them one hell of a bloody nose.
 
I thought you were discussing defense scheme 1 (hence the posts about the japanese) which was developed after ww1 if i remember correctly.
It's also a bit of a catch 22 isn't it? Before ww1 I'm under the impression that the Americans were a paper tiger but after the war the CEF veterans are going to give them one hell of a bloody nose.

it should probably be noted that the United States has a rather large number of veterans too post war

and Saph was addressing pre 1914 in his post, so my response was in response to that. Post World War I the USN and RN were not dissimilar in size (and that before the Washington Naval Treaty).
 
it should probably be noted that the United States has a rather large number of veterans too post war

and Saph was addressing pre 1914 in his post, so my response was in response to that. Post World War I the USN and RN were not dissimilar in size (and that before the Washington Naval Treaty).
They have some Veterans sure but they wouldn't have seen as much fighting as the CEF who were in the thick of it for much longer and were as good as any of the European armies and they are going to be reinforced by a large and equally battle hardened British army.
 
They have some Veterans sure but they wouldn't have seen as much fighting as the CEF who were in the thick of it for much longer and were as good as any of the European armies and they are going to be reinforced by a large and equally battle hardened British army.

really? which year? Face it, all of the English speaking nations essentially demobilized their armies post 1919. The RN and USN were maintained at a significant size, but the great armies of 1918 are long gone, The British are in financial trouble, the US has no interests that clash with the British Empire and what exactly is the scenario that leads to any kind of significant friction, much less war?

While the Canadian Corps has a lot of battle honors and much to be proud of, it no longer exists post war, no do the massive American divisions of that era either.

So what year are you making assumptions about? The British is doing good to put together a division for maneuvers by the mid 20s, and while still better off than the US Army, none of the English speaking nations can be remotely be described as combat ready in any significant sense.

The only possibility of any kind of armed clash is pre World War I, and even then as we get closer to 1914 and it becomes increasingly clear that Germany and Britain are going to clash any friction between the US and Britain is pretty much in the dustbin of history.

Contrary to what you might think, aside from a few wackos, no one in the United States has had dreams of conquering Canada since the mid 19th Century.
 
They have some Veterans sure but they wouldn't have seen as much fighting as the CEF who were in the thick of it for much longer and were as good as any of the European armies and they are going to be reinforced by a large and equally battle hardened British army.

Doesn't matter much if America turns this into a war of attrition, which it will do, and would certainly win. If there is any advantages America has post 1900, it is the sheer size of it's industrial capabilities and population.
 
really? which year? Face it, all of the English speaking nations essentially demobilized their armies post 1919. The RN and USN were maintained at a significant size, but the great armies of 1918 are long gone, The British are in financial trouble, the US has no interests that clash with the British Empire and what exactly is the scenario that leads to any kind of significant friction, much less war?

While the Canadian Corps has a lot of battle honors and much to be proud of, it no longer exists post war, no do the massive American divisions of that era either.

So what year are you making assumptions about? The British is doing good to put together a division for maneuvers by the mid 20s, and while still better off than the US Army, none of the English speaking nations can be remotely be described as combat ready in any significant sense.

The only possibility of any kind of armed clash is pre World War I, and even then as we get closer to 1914 and it becomes increasingly clear that Germany and Britain are going to clash any friction between the US and Britain is pretty much in the dustbin of history.

Contrary to what you might think, aside from a few wackos, no one in the United States has had dreams of conquering Canada since the mid 19th Century.
They did indeed demobilize but that doesn't detract from my point, initially the British side will have access to more and superior veterans to build their armies around.

I'm not sure why you brought up the bit about American desire or lack there of to conquer Canada, the thread is about an Anglo American war, Canada is an obvious battleground. I'm well aware that America has little interest in conquering Canada
 

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British side will have access to more and superior veterans to build their armies around.
In that day and age, your veterans mean much less than they did in late 18th or early 19th century. You can have that advantage, but the Americans will have a much more tangible advantage of numbers, logistics and firepower. In a long war your veterans start meaning less while the latter factors remain.
 
In that day and age, your veterans mean much less than they did in late 18th or early 19th century. You can have that advantage, but the Americans will have a much more tangible advantage of numbers, logistics and firepower. In a long war your veterans start meaning less while the latter factors remain.
I don't recall saying anything to the contrary, I was saying that should the war take place after ww1 then you shouldn't assume the Americans will take Canadian Territory quickly due to the experience and proven ability of the CEF veterans Nothing more and nothing less.
 
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