AHC WI A Jewish state in Palestine survives to the present day?

In otl a rebellion against Rome was a factor in causin the great disaspora of the Jewish people.

Is there any way for that not to happen.

If there were fewer Jewish folk in Europe might anti semitism in Christianity be less marked?

Or would such a state have suffered a "Final Solluton" during the Crusades?
 

Dolan

Banned
Have the Herodian Dynasty to pulled an Armenia, where they just keep a low profile and subservience to Rome (or Parthia for that matter, if there's change due to invasion and such) until the later is weakened enough.

Ironically, that wouldn't be exactly Jewish if we go through the Armenian route. Let's say that instead of initially supporting Jewish hardliners, Herod Agrippa II realized that this new sub-sect of Judaism told by him by St. Paul would be much more suitable to "calming the Jewish population down", and thus, he gave full pardon to Paul, and then basically march to Jerusalem with Roman troops to basically hand over the temple to this new "Cult of Christ", who he is now a member of.

This ended up changed the aim of the Early Church very early in their vector. Instead of proselytizing away, they would convert the Hardline Judaism first, and this time, if they played their cards right aka supporting Rome, they could hold on the Levant as a semi-independent vassal state until 3rd Century, before the Crisis of the 3rd century gave them chance to just bribe the Legions stationed there (who might already turned into Believers at this point), and declares their independence.

Becoming the Judeo-Christian version of Palmyran Empire, that since they were backed by unifying and organized religion, couldn't be toppled as easily as the OTL Palmyrans. Likely ended up encompassing Egypt, Judea, Phoenicia-Syria up to Antioch, and maybe the usual Syria-Mesopotamia borders at the east. Also make some forays into Arabia already.

Then, while the Empire might lost the peripheral regions, civil wars, dynastic changes, etc... Their cultural center would stay more or less at Jerusalem, with population that still calling themselves Jewish by blood but following the Cult of Christ, which might end up seeing themselves as just a sect of previous Judaism.
 

Kaze

Banned
Let us say the ASB happens and the state is free from Roman control. It won't stay long. The Roman Empire would peter on for a while and then would collapse. The Byzantines might look towards the weak state in their area of influence as a good place of conquest. Then we must also consider - Mohamed (may Allah bless him) and his heirs - the establishment of the first caliphate will be a problem for any post-Roman Israel - it will not survive long.
 
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