AHC: Wank Apartheid South Africa

How about a South African annexation of Southwest Africa and Rhodesia, adding its white population to the RSA's citizenry, while placing its black population to more repressive surveillance and control?
 

Pangur

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How about a South African annexation of Southwest Africa and Rhodesia, adding its white population to the RSA's citizenry, while placing its black population to more repressive surveillance and control?

That would surely work the other way as they Black/White ratio would be even less favorable to the whites.
 
That would surely work the other way as they Black/White ratio would be even less favorable to the whites.

Yes, but it also might give white governemnt of South Africa additional territory, resources and a common border with leftist African Nationalist states such as Angola and Zambia, allowing punitive campaigns into these contries...

As for the additional balck population, if they could be effectively disarmed, their majority doesn't count for much.
 
No WW1 or WW2 which means Borders with other europeans who don't want Black rebellions. Also more people in European countries so more migration to south Africa which tips the demographics to be more favourable for the White ruling class.
 
What about Southern Rhodesia voting to join South Africa, it would mean mean Northern Rhodesia, Botswana, Nambia and the rest of Southern Africa joining and thus holding a large share of the worlds mineral reserves. It would also mean the National Party does not come into power in 1948 and thus there is more migration from Europe.

There have been several threads about this.

Another POD would be Quebec joining the American Revolution and thus the Loyalists (some of them at least) would have to go the Cape, thus there are more White Settlers and more likely to be bigger South Africa.
 
What if the white minority claimed a city by the sea and separated becoming a powerful city-state?

Expel anyone who wouldn't play ball in the new White majority but much smaller country territory-wise country.

As long as they dropped the more agregious aspects of the regime after that then most of the world may be alright with it.

At some point the rest of what was South Africa may look to reclaim its territory and things become awfully interesting
 
Have more European immigrants into the Dutch Colony for one. Throughout the entire period of Dutch rule, only 2,044 immigrants arrived in the Cape. Due to a salubrious climate and high birth rate they multiplied. However, few of the immigrants arrived after 1700. Few Dutch settled in their colonies, however the Dutch did not seem opposed to settling foreigners in the colonies in New Netherlands or South Africa.

The Netherlands had quite a few English Puritans and they were in the Netherlands and they may have been settled in South Africa. In 1645-46 Puritans attempted to establish a colony in Madagascar, so they would not be opposed to settling in Africa. A small group of these, say 1,000 would create around 500,000 descendants by 1900.

Many of the immigrants were actually from Germany, Scandinavia and French Huguenots. Many Germans from the Palitanate region of Germany settled in the Netherlands, especially Rotterdam during the War of Spanish Succession. Some 2,100 Palatinate Germans were settled in New York in 1711. The Netherlands could have easily settled a similar number in South Africa. By 1900 their descendants would add another 300,000 Europeans to South Africa (taking to account the similar birth rate).

Take in an additional 20,000 Europeans during the 1700-1750 period and you have 1.5 million whites added to the population by 1900. Another 10,000 immigrants in the 1750-1770 period would add another 400,000 Europeans to the population in 1900. So by 1900 there would be 3.5 million "Afrikaners" in South Africa vs 850,000. The black and coloured population would be around 3.7 million by comparison, today they would number over 11 million.
 
Have more European immigrants into the Dutch Colony for one. Throughout the entire period of Dutch rule, only 2,044 immigrants arrived in the Cape. Due to a salubrious climate and high birth rate they multiplied. However, few of the immigrants arrived after 1700. Few Dutch settled in their colonies, however the Dutch did not seem opposed to settling foreigners in the colonies in New Netherlands or South Africa.

The Netherlands had quite a few English Puritans and they were in the Netherlands and they may have been settled in South Africa. In 1645-46 Puritans attempted to establish a colony in Madagascar, so they would not be opposed to settling in Africa. A small group of these, say 1,000 would create around 500,000 descendants by 1900.

Many of the immigrants were actually from Germany, Scandinavia and French Huguenots. Many Germans from the Palitanate region of Germany settled in the Netherlands, especially Rotterdam during the War of Spanish Succession. Some 2,100 Palatinate Germans were settled in New York in 1711. The Netherlands could have easily settled a similar number in South Africa. By 1900 their descendants would add another 300,000 Europeans to South Africa (taking to account the similar birth rate).

Take in an additional 20,000 Europeans during the 1700-1750 period and you have 1.5 million whites added to the population by 1900. Another 10,000 immigrants in the 1750-1770 period would add another 400,000 Europeans to the population in 1900. So by 1900 there would be 3.5 million "Afrikaners" in South Africa vs 850,000. The black and coloured population would be around 3.7 million by comparison, today they would number over 11 million.

I think the OP wanted it to be British rather than say Dutch.

Maybe get the British to repeat the 1820 plantation soon afterwards and find some POD that means most of them stay.
 
I think the OP wanted it to be British rather than say Dutch.

Maybe get the British to repeat the 1820 plantation soon afterwards and find some POD that means most of them stay.

That's why I included a large number of English Puritans early on, so perhaps you'd get a bilingual situation from the start. During the Cromwell's Commonwealth they side with England and the Dutch colony gets annexed by England during the Anglo-Dutch wars. The Brits settled Germans in their colonies in America so that isn't too far fetched.
 
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