The British had no way to hold or enforce their claim on the land west of Appalachians and south of Ohio, and they knew it. I'd hardly call it a wank.OTL's result was pretty much a U.S.-wank. It was not inevitable that the U.S. would get all the land in between the Appalachians and the Mississippi.
13 Colonies, Quebec, and MAYBE “New Brunswick” and The Bahamas.
Depends on how well we do in battles and the type of help from foreigners, really.
The British had no way to hold or enforce their claim on the land west of Appalachians and south of Ohio, and they knew it. I'd hardly call it a wank.
They could avoid totally fucking up the Penobscot Expedition in 1779, that cluster virtually bankrupted Massachusetts.
OTL's result was pretty much a U.S.-wank.
…including the Floridas.
The US got pretty lucky in OTL. But I guess for a US-wank, you could have New Brunswick join as well, and have the Americans take southern Ontario. Finding a way to expel the British completely from the Northwest Territory would complete a "perfect" American Revolution (avoids the War of 1812 later down the line).
OTL's result was pretty much a U.S.-wank. It was not inevitable that the U.S. would get all the land in between the Appalachians and the Mississippi.
The thing is, where the the loyalists go? Would they flee to the Caribbean, whatever leftover province(s) are left in OTL Canada, to South America, or to Drakia Cape Colony?
Not at all. The Treaty of Alliance with France specifically acknowledged that all Canadian land would go to the US; in exchange we agreed that any Caribbean islands or what not we captured would go to France. Likewise, the Canadians were pre-approved for statehood under the Articles of Confederation.If us take control of quebec by taking the city, wouldn't the French pressure the congress to return it to them ?
That does not mean things could have got better for the US in the ARW.
My suggestion would be a harsher Quebec Act which drives the Franch Canadians and Nova Scotia to join the ARW and thus become part of the United States of America, The Bahamas might also be part of it from day one.
If Britain gains Cuba from the SYW, Cuba might also join the ARW and become part of the USA as well, as might Jamaica (although that is a long shot).
South Africa, Australia and "British" South America mainly
It would also mean that there is a Colonial Navy that isn't a joke.
That is an if, although, as Just a Rube points out, the Caribbean islands would go to France in the event of capture during the war. And with so many Catholics, especially French and Spanish ones, it makes the alliance between the states more tenuous (if just a little). Be interesting to see how a division plays out.
Sorry. I did mean to imply the latter, and South Africa with the Cape Colony (I got a shade of deja vu, which reminded me of the Draka. That story began under a similar situation.)
One interesting thing is, if Britain had Cuba, and they managed to retain it during the war, it might become a Loyalist stronghold. That complicates things greatly, as then Britain would have an easier time reaching the Mississippi watershed, and could exert its influence on the Old Northwest Territories moreso.