AHC: US States in the Old World

Could there be any new US states or territories in the Old World after WWII?

Could anything gained/liberated from Japan become a US state?

What about some formerly communist area?

This can happen any time after WWII.

POD can be before WWII, but WWII must go approximately the same way as OTL. So a POD inside the US, possibly a cultural one, would work. But anything geopolitical would be after WWII ends, or during its final months.
 
Woo, love this stuff.

OTL: Tiny statehood petition in Sicily after WWII. I forget the rest from that timeframe…

Japan would require no nukes and a blockade that leads to the Japanese not giving up, starving themselves out, and the US being left with virtually lifeless islands to retake. And then yeah, it's possible. Incredibly morbid and unlikely, but possible.

OTL right now: Small US statehood movement in Taiwan. The US has the only legally recognized international claim on the island (as a result of how things worked in WWII), so Taiwan is legally a US territory right now. There's a small percent of the population looking for statehood.

Liberia, with a different history (so pre-1900 POD) could have become a state.
 
I think I remember reading somewhere that there are actually more people in Taiwan who want Formosa to be an American state than there are people who wants it to be a province of the People's Republic of China...
 
Could the Philippines become 3-5 US states? Or perhaps after some catastrophic series of coups and balkanization, the stablest part left joins as a US territory and then state?
 
the Ryukyu Islands... maybe, Americans have never been to hot on a US state that doesn't speak English and is "Foreign looking"
 
the Ryukyu Islands... maybe, Americans have never been to hot on a US state that doesn't speak English and is "Foreign looking"
True but cultural PODs can happen before WWII and after 1900. Just as long as WWII except the last few months stays the same.
 
True but cultural PODs can happen before WWII and after 1900. Just as long as WWII except the last few months stays the same.

thats another thing, annexing countries really stopped being cool after WWII, I can see the Ryukyu Islands as being made a territory to protect the base at Okinawa, than at some point in the 1980s they push for statehood after being largely over looked for years.
 
I think I remember reading somewhere that there are actually more people in Taiwan who want Formosa to be an American state than there are people who wants it to be a province of the People's Republic of China...

I think that pole was done with the idea that if they had to pick which country they would prefer to be a part of and no other options.
 
Could the Philippines become 3-5 US states? Or perhaps after some catastrophic series of coups and balkanization, the stablest part left joins as a US territory and then state?

Nope. It wasn't going to happen. Not with a post-1900 POD.
 
if it counts, i'd say the best candidates would be OTL territories in the pacific, like samoa and guam
 
Could there be any new US states or territories in the Old World after WWII?

Could anything gained/liberated from Japan become a US state?

What about some formerly communist area?

This can happen any time after WWII.

POD can be before WWII, but WWII must go approximately the same way as OTL. So a POD inside the US, possibly a cultural one, would work. But anything geopolitical would be after WWII ends, or during its final months.

Other than perhaps Liberia, nothing could be done without going into ASB territory.
 
If you can raise the population of US Pacific territories by a factor of 5 or so, you might see a real statehood movement in Guam/Samoa/etc. Especially if it's a large American migrant population. I have no idea how to do that, though.
 
What if during WW1, the Russian revoluition goes haywire, amaerica gets vladivostok, and siberia, mostly kamchatka as a tyerrirory, while Europeon russia gets balkzanized. In late 1990's a statehood movement sucsessds.
 

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What if during WW1, the Russian revoluition goes haywire, amaerica gets vladivostok, and siberia, mostly kamchatka as a tyerrirory, while Europeon russia gets balkzanized. In late 1990's a statehood movement sucsessds.

Why would the U.S. even want that land?
 
Well for a challenge there was a movement in Sicily after World War 2 that advocated joining the United States as a state. Maybe if Italy is crushed.

I would say a China divided between the European powers would be the best bet. The USA would carve out a small sphere of influence, most likely a prominent port and some surrounding towns which eventually applies for citizenship way later. One has to remember that the USA would not be letting much foreigners into the union due to rampant racism (played a factor in the refusal to annex Santo Domingo, Congo, and Cuba).

The Philippines would also be a good candidate but the OTL war was so brutish and unpopular that it sort of ruined public good will to the colony and in the colony with the United States. Moreover the islands were indefensible, finally shown in World War 2, that was known since the TR days. However, it is possible for the Philippines to start off independent, get invaded, heroically throw off invader, then petition the USA for acceptance and protection. This again will have to come later because racism.
 
If the RCW got so bad that America could step in and make a claim on Vladivostok, I'd imagine the Japanese would've gotten there first and called dibs on it.
 
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