AHC: Unscrew the Philippines

Personally, I think the Philippines and the Filipinos are one of the biggest screws in OTL. Are you up to the challenge?
 
Personally, I think the Philippines and the Filipinos are one of the biggest screws in OTL. Are you up to the challenge?

For Starters have Brunei not vassalize Tondo or give Luzon a higher population in 1500's, this means the people of Luzon would have a more fighting chance against the Spanish, a majority of the people in Luzon did not like the Spanish the people who allied with the Spanish got more population later on and eliminated the people who were against the Spanish that is why it got Christianized in the first place and also having Brunei not vassalize Tondo or replace its ruling dynasty would mean that the dynasty would be native and concerned only at its people not loyal to its dynasty which would mean Tondo would be able to tighten its overlordship/supremacy in Luzon.

The Second is make the Madya-as confederation stronger by allying with Sulu.
 
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Personally, I think the Philippines and the Filipinos are one of the biggest screws in OTL. Are you up to the challenge?

They really are'nt; the Philippines exists as an independent state, it's not suffered any major genocides or the like, the only part of the original culture that does'nt still exist in some way is the indigenous religions (which are still practiced by small groups) and they've not had their entire country destroyed in war.
 
Either the Creole revolt during 1823 succeeds or that Andres Bonifacio is able to incite more patriotic fervor on the members of the Katipunan so that we get less turn-coats killing the would-be heroes.

If A.Bonifacio has more victories under his belt, people like Aguinaldo would think twice usurping him as the head of the Katipunan. To do that he would need more prep. time and more support from the rich Filipino.

If the Katipunan managed to defeat spain before the spanish american war things might have happen differently.
 
They really are'nt; the Philippines exists as an independent state, it's not suffered any major genocides or the like, the only part of the original culture that does'nt still exist in some way is the indigenous religions (which are still practiced by small groups) and they've not had their entire country destroyed in war.


Philippines is screwed because the Philippines is an Artificially carved country with Semi-Feudal Characteristics and corrupt politicians.
 
Philippines is screwed because the Philippines is an Artificially carved country with Semi-Feudal Characteristics and corrupt politicians.

Nearly every country on Earth is artificial to one degree or another, and it's hardly the only country with political corruption.
 
Either the Creole revolt during 1823 succeeds or that Andres Bonifacio is able to incite more patriotic fervor on the members of the Katipunan so that we get less turn-coats killing the would-be heroes.

If A.Bonifacio has more victories under his belt, people like Aguinaldo would think twice usurping him as the head of the Katipunan. To do that he would need more prep. time and more support from the rich Filipino.

If the Katipunan managed to defeat spain before the spanish american war things might have happen differently.

How does Andres Novales succeed in his revolt though? His claim was the Emperor of the Philippines.
 
Thanks for pointing out one of the problems.


Unfortunately, what kasumigenx offers is a Tondo Hegemony over the Philippine islands with headed by a monarchy from the bloodline of either or both coming from the royal houses of Tondo and Brunei. In which the end result won't be called or even identified as the Philippines.

What the thread starter requested is unscrewed Philippines. So Philippines must be colonised by Spain to exist and the USA or another power must claim it as a whole from Spain to keep its integrity.

But Enough of that molave, what are your criteria for Philippines to be unscrewed?
 
MarshalBraginsky the Novales revolt would have succeed if his brother opened the gates of a fort inside Intramuros. I could only speculate that if Intramuros fall under his control he would easily convince the surrounding areas to oust Spain and declare their independence from her.

Note that spain is busy with the reconquista of Mexico at this moment in time.
 
Thanks for pointing out one of the problems.


Unfortunately, what kasumigenx offers is a Tondo Hegemony over the Philippine islands with headed by a monarchy from the bloodline of either or both coming from the royal houses of Tondo and Brunei. In which the end result won't be called or even identified as the Philippines.

What the thread starter requested is unscrewed Philippines. So Philippines must be colonised by Spain to exist and the USA or another power must claim it as a whole from Spain to keep its integrity.

But Enough of that molave, what are your criteria for Philippines to be unscrewed?
I think he meant the OTL Philippines.

Tondo Hegemony, no a Surviving Tondo Dynasty would just mean more or less an Independent Luzon not the Philippines...the the Spanish colonization is a screw itself I think, a No-Colonization or a limited colonization would be a better scenario for the OTL Philippines.
 
Unfortunately, what kasumigenx offers is a Tondo Hegemony over the Philippine islands with headed by a monarchy from the bloodline of either or both coming from the royal houses of Tondo and Brunei. In which the end result won't be called or even identified as the Philippines.

What the thread starter requested is unscrewed Philippines. So Philippines must be colonised by Spain to exist and the USA or another power must claim it as a whole from Spain to keep its integrity.

Pre-colonial PODs are ok. I'm referring to the Philippines as a georgraphical region not being screwed.

But Enough of that molave, what are your criteria for Philippines to be unscrewed?

The minimum would be one of these two:
- The Philippines remains independent of European powers similar to what Siam did OTL.
- It still gets colonized, but manages to be independent or self-governing with a stable political and economic environment in place (i.e. it didn't experience what happened OTL during the Philippine-American war or the chaos that surrounded Haiti after its independence).

If you want to go a little bit more wankish, make it like the Brazilian Empire or a SEA Great Britain analog (besides, the Philippines looks somewhat similar to the British Isles, isn't it?).
 
Unscrewing the Islands

Except for my timeline, here's my suggestions:
Option #1: Andrés Novales succeeded to defeat the Spanish forces and his title (Emperador de las Islas Filipinas) became true.
Option #2: More unified and prepared Katipunan.
Option #3: Earlier abolition of galleon trade and we'll see and earlier influx of liberal ideas and nationalism
 
But I wonder why Andres Novales's brother did not open the door of the Intramuros though. Could we have seen the House of Novales as the new ruling dynasty in the Philippines though, and could they expand into Sabah and also claim the rest of the former Spanish East Indies outside the Philippines itself?
 
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