AHC: United Europe

Indeed; it is a purely geographical term. No one takes being European seriously because it's not a real Union. It's just a collection of sovereign states that try to get rich together and coordinate on a few issues if needed. Would countries that came into being as a result of regionalism still be interested in the EU if the deal was to be annexed into a European Federation? I don't think so. Scotland is a fairly important part of the UK; it'd be an absolutely irrelevant backwater in a European Federation. If they cannot tolerate the first situation, why would the second one be any more appealing? They'd have even less control over their fate.

Well, nationalism works in weird ways, OK?
It doesn't make sense how stuff works...I mean, what makes someone identify by a certain nationality, and why they do so really depends on the individual...

I could say that the idea of being "European" doesn't conflict with their regionalistic identity, but does with their national government identity (ex. A Scot may not regard themselves as British, but is more willing to regard themself as European, or a Catalan who is also European, but not Spanish). Also, their countries wouldn't be relevant on their own anyway, while in an united Europe, they would be part of a relevant institution...
I think for them, having control over all of their affairs is a pipe-dream due to how the world works, but at least they could have their own region to play around with I guess...
I mean, in India there are people who call for new states to better deal with their region's affairs, but they don't want to become independent from Indian, such as with the "Telangana Movement" calling for a state of Telangana to be carved from Andhra Pradesh, which ultimately succeeded...

Seriously, I don't get this either logically, but I do know that this coupling of support for regionalism with support for European integration is present among some regionalist/separatist movements, and among people who support them...:confused::eek:
 
Well, nationalism works in weird ways, OK?
It doesn't make sense how stuff works...I mean, what makes someone identify by a certain nationality, and why they do so really depends on the individual...

I could say that the idea of being "European" doesn't conflict with their regionalistic identity, but does with their national government identity (ex. A Scot may not regard themselves as British, but is more willing to regard themself as European, or a Catalan who is also European, but not Spanish). Also, their countries wouldn't be relevant on their own anyway, while in an united Europe, they would be part of a relevant institution...
I think for them, having control over all of their affairs is a pipe-dream due to how the world works, but at least they could have their own region to play around with I guess...
I mean, in India there are people who call for new states to better deal with their region's affairs, but they don't want to become independent from Indian, such as with the "Telangana Movement" calling for a state of Telangana to be carved from Andhra Pradesh, which ultimately succeeded...

Seriously, I don't get this either logically, but I do know that this coupling of support for regionalism with support for European integration is present among some regionalist/separatist movements, and among people who support them...:confused::eek:

They'd rather represent themselves in Europe than their rulers doing that for them.
 
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