AHC: Timurid Empire holds.

[B_Munro]

Personality changes with the POD at conception are more plausible than any other POD. Personality changes with the POD at birth are just as plausible as any other POD, for example a battle going a different way or a disease outbreak that didn't happen.

how does one get a personality change at birth? Scared by a particularly ugly midwife?

Bruce

PS - personality usually develops and solidifies by one's 20s: with a different childhood, adolescence, a different adult is certainly plausible, even likely. I was talking about major changes past that age.

Personality change at conception is "someone else with the same name."

 

[Zuvarq]

how does one get a personality change at birth?

personality usually develops and solidifies by one's 20s: with a different childhood, adolescence, a different adult is certainly plausible, even likely.

Exactly.

Personality change at conception is "someone else with the same name."

Not necessarily, they could be between 0 and 50% different. Since alternate history is not a random number generator or a simulator, but rather fiction, it's okay to assume that they are still similar for the sake of the scenario.

 

[B_Munro]

Exactly.

Not necessarily, they could be between 0 and 50% different. Since alternate history is not a random number generator or a simulator, but rather fiction, it's okay to assume that they are still similar for the sake of the scenario.

Actually, if they got just the right 50% of genes from each parent, they could be 100% different. But that's just as unlikely as 0%.

Bruce

 

[Deleted member 14881]

B_Munro I had a idea if Ulugh Beg could conquer the White Sheep Turks and the Uzbeks could the Timurids couquer the Mameluks?

 

[B_Munro]

All very speculative stuff, and the Ottomans are in a better place to take the Mamelukes than a state with a capital in Afghanistan. In any event, you're getting your cart before your horse: we have not yet established how a theoretical son of Shah Ruhk migh stabilize and safeguard his inheritance, and here you are looking to Egyptian conquests. This sounds like a wank wandering around in search of a justification...

Bruce

 

[Deleted member 14881]

Ok if Ulugh Beg is smarter and more compenet can defend the state can partition the White Sheep Turks with the Ottomans and they conquer the Uzbeks and maybe up to the Ural river?

 

[Elfwine]

Ok if Ulugh Beg is smarter and more compenet can defend the state can partition the White Sheep Turks with the Ottomans and they conquer the Uzbeks and maybe up to the Ural river?

Why would the Ottomans want to help the Timurids? Especially against the Uzbeks, who are far from a common enemy?

 

[Deleted member 14881]

I meant The Timurids conquer the Uzbeks alone not with the Ottomans

 

[Elfwine]

I meant The Timurids conquer the Uzbeks alone not with the Ottomans

Ah.

Still wondering why the Ottomans don't see the White Sheep Turks being a thorn in the side of the Timurids as a plus, though.

 

[Deleted member 14881]

The Safavids did conquer the White sheeps easily or the Ottomans vassalizied them and be the thorn to Timurid's. is anyone interseted in a TL?

 

[Razgriz 2K9]

No, the Safavid's did conquer the White Sheep Turks, in 1508 actually. To be fair, the Aq Koyunlu were adversarial to the Ottomans, largely due to the former's support for the rival Karamanid Emirate.