AHC: Three US Presidents born in the same year (other than 1946)

Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Donald Trump were all born in 1946. Judging from https://en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United… this is the first time we have had three presidents of the United States all born in the same year.

AHC: Get three presidents of the United States born in one particular year *other than* 1946. To get the ball rolling: Jimmy Carter and GHW Bush were both born in 1924, so we just need one more POTUS born that year. The possibility that first occurred to me was Frank Church. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Church Unfortunately, though, the year Church had the best chance of being elected POTUS was 1976--so if he were elected, presumably Carter would not be, and there would therefore still be only two presidents born in 1924. Unless of course, a Carter-Church ticket wins in 1976 (and there was talk about such a ticket--"Speculation about Frank Church, for example, focused on Carter's weakness in the West, where he entered five, and lost five, primaries" https://newrepublic.com/article/91197/carter-convention-1976) and something happens to Carter in office...

(But maybe "Carter-Church" sounds a little too pious :p)

Anyway, see if you can think of any other possibility, either after 1900 or before it.
 
1947:
  • Dan Quayle
  • Tom DeLay
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger
  • Hillary Clinton
  • Tom Daschle
So, for example:
1989-1992: George H.W. Bush
1992-1993: Dan Quayle
1993-1997: Tom DeLay
*1996: 28th Amendment passed, removing "natural-born citizen" requirement​
1997-2005: Tom Daschle
2005-2013: Arnold Schwarzenegger
2013-????: Hillary Clinton
 
BTW, maybe it's not a pure coincidence that we have had so many presidents and near-presidents born in 1946 and 1947 (Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton were both born in 1947). Those years after all were the very beginning of the baby boom, and it has been suggested that politicians born in those years had less competition than they might otherwise have had from politicians born one to ten years earlier, due to the birth dearth of the Depression and World War II.
 
How about 1913?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Talmadge or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smathers seem plausible candidates to match Nixon and Ford.

(A little farther out - if we can prevent Vince Lombardi's cancer, maybe he can go into politics and, after a stint as a Senator (NY, maybe), successfully runs for president in 1980?)

Both Smathers and Talmadge signed the "Southern Manifesto" against *Brown v. Board of Education,* which probably rules them off a national Democratic ticket (Talmadge in particular was way too segregationist). Lyndon B. Johnson, Albert Gore, Sr. and Estes Kefauver, by contrast, did not sign it, and therefore remained prospects. (In fact, LBJ's fellow southern senators didn't *want* him to sign it, so that he could retain his chances for the presidency.)
 
1924:
Jimmy carter, John Rarick and George H. W. Bush
Example:
  • 1974-1977 Gerald Ford
  • 1977-1981 Jimmy Carter
  • 1981-1985 John Rarick
  • 1985-1993 George H. W. Bush
  • 1993-...
The POD is, that Iran hostage crisis is seen not as disaster for Jimmy Carter, but for political establishment as whole - some Republican politician trying to negotiate and making the things worser - John Rarick as American Independent runs campaign based on conservative values and his experience as WW2 POW and in the end has unexpected success winning the elections with narrow margin. For 1984 elections the Republicans are back in business.
 
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Both Smathers and Talmadge signed the "Southern Manifesto" against *Brown v. Board of Education,* which probably rules them off a national Democratic ticket (Talmadge in particular was way too segregationist). Lyndon B. Johnson, Albert Gore, Sr. and Estes Kefauver, by contrast, did not sign it, and therefore remained prospects. (In fact, LBJ's fellow southern senators didn't *want* him to sign it, so that he could retain his chances for the presidency.)

Fair enough! There's slim pickings if you just research on Wikipedia like I did :eek:
 
1924:
Jimmy carter, John Rarick and George H. W. Bush
Example:
  • 1974-1977 Gerald Ford
  • 1977-1981 Jimmy Carter
  • 1981-1985 John Rarick
  • 1985-1993 George H. W. Bush
  • 1993-...
The POD is, that Iran hostage crisis is seen not as disaster for Jimmy Carter, but for political establishment as whole - some Republican politician trying to negotiate and making the things worser - John Rarick as American Independent runs campaign based on conservative values and his experience as WW2 POW and in the end has unexpected success winning the elections with narrow margin. For 1984 elections the Republicans are back in business.

Rarick had as much chance of being elected president on a third-party ticket as David Duke did. (Probably less so, since he was less well-known!) In 1980 if both major party candidates were involved in horrible last-minute scandals, the only beneficiary would be John Anderson.

A very improbable but still slightly more realistic scenario is one where the GOP goes liberal so that John Anderson, John Chafee, and Mark Hatfield all become president--maybe Charles Mathias, too! (All four were born in 1922.)
 
A very improbable but still slightly more realistic scenario is one where the GOP goes liberal so that John Anderson, John Chafee, and Mark Hatfield all become president--maybe Charles Mathias, too! (All four were born in 1922.)

Be still my heart :cool: I say that even as a lifelong lefty Democrat; that's one murderer's row of good presidents you've got there.
 
POD: Jeb! elected as governor of Florida in 1994.

2000 - Jeb Bush b. 1953
2008 - John Edwards
2012 - Gary Johnson

 
POD: Jeb! elected as governor of Florida in 1994.

2000 - Jeb Bush b. 1953
2008 - John Edwards
2012 - Gary Johnson

The first two are plausible, but I don't think the GOP is likely to nominate a social liberal like Gary Johnson in 2012. Maybe Edwards serves two terms and is succeeded by Russ Feingold. (In this ATL Edwards is for some reason more popular than Obama in 2010, so Feingold gets re-elected to the Senate that year, and is a plausible presidential candidate for 2016. Of course I assume Edwards' extramarital affair is butterflied away.)
 
The first two are plausible, but I don't think the GOP is likely to nominate a social liberal like Gary Johnson in 2012. Maybe Edwards serves two terms and is succeeded by Russ Feingold. (In this ATL Edwards is for some reason more popular than Obama in 2010, so Feingold gets re-elected to the Senate that year, and is a plausible presidential candidate for 2016. Of course I assume Edwards' extramarital affair is butterflied away.)

Yeah, that was a push.

An even more unrealistic one.

PODs: George W. Bush gets assassinated in Georgia, Cheney doesn't go for two terms, GFC a little bit later.

2005-09 - Dick Cheney b. 1941
2009-13 - Tommy Thompson
2013- Bernie Sanders
 
How about 1913?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Talmadge or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smathers seem plausible candidates to match Nixon and Ford.

(A little farther out - if we can prevent Vince Lombardi's cancer, maybe he can go into politics and, after a stint as a Senator (NY, maybe), successfully runs for president in 1980?)

Both Smathers and Talmadge signed the "Southern Manifesto" against *Brown v. Board of Education,* which probably rules them off a national Democratic ticket (Talmadge in particular was way too segregationist). Lyndon B. Johnson, Albert Gore, Sr. and Estes Kefauver, by contrast, did not sign it, and therefore remained prospects. (In fact, LBJ's fellow southern senators didn't *want* him to sign it, so that he could retain his chances for the presidency.)

How about these two for 1913:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vanik
(nearly became Democratic lieutenant-governor of Ohio)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Agnich
(nearly became Republican governor of Texas)


Nixon/Ford 69-74 (R)
Nixon resigns

Ford*/Rockefeller 74-76 (R)
Ford gets killed

Rockefeller/X1 76-77 (R)
loses primary to Reagan

Jackson/X2 77-81 (D)
loses re-election to Romney/Agnich

Romney*/Agnich 81-82 (R)
Romney gets killed

Agnich/X3 82-89 (R)

Dukakis/Vanik 89-91 (D)
Dukakis impeached

Vanik/X4 91-93 (D)
loses re-election to ...


(thus 4 people from 1913)
 
1947:
  • Dan Quayle
  • Tom DeLay
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger
  • Hillary Clinton
  • Tom Daschle
So, for example:
1989-1992: George H.W. Bush
1992-1993: Dan Quayle
1993-1997: Tom DeLay
*1996: 28th Amendment passed, removing "natural-born citizen" requirement​
1997-2005: Tom Daschle
2005-2013: Arnold Schwarzenegger
2013-????: Hillary Clinton

A much more plausible (IMO) three-born-in-1947:

1991-3: Dan Quayle (after GHW Bush dies in a helicopter crash)
2009-13: Hillary Clinton (who is less popular as POTUS than Obama in OTL and narrowly loses in 2012)
2013-????: Mitt Romney
 
Rarick had as much chance of being elected president on a third-party ticket as David Duke did. (Probably less so, since he was less well-known!) In 1980 if both major party candidates were involved in horrible last-minute scandals, the only beneficiary would be John Anderson.

A very improbable but still slightly more realistic scenario is one where the GOP goes liberal so that John Anderson, John Chafee, and Mark Hatfield all become president--maybe Charles Mathias, too! (All four were born in 1922.)

For me it seemed, that the easiest way is to find a year of birth, with more that one president in OTL, make a POD as late as possible (because of butterflies) and there are only two possibilities: 1913 and 1924. And for me 1924 is more probable, I tried to replace Reagan with real OTL presidential candidate, but ignored political reality and failed. All that because I tried not to let Reagan die/retire, but when Course of Tippecanoe hits harder, it could mean, that George H. W. Bush has his presidency eight years before OTL and his presidency is probably successful ( it is still cold war and not Gulf war era), what means, that there is a election with unknown republican front runner, who could win; The republican front runner for ATL 1988 elections can easily have birth year 1924, one possibility is former rear admiral and republican senator from Alabama Jeremiah Denton, the list of presidents could end up as following:

  • 1974-1977 Gerald Ford
  • 1977-1981 Jimmy Carter
  • 1981 Ronald Reagan
  • 1981-1989 George H. W. Bush
  • 1989- ... Jeremiah Denton.
But as I said, I failed, the presented 1981 POD is just for showing a possibility.
 
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BTW, maybe it's not a pure coincidence that we have had so many presidents and near-presidents born in 1946 and 1947 (Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton were both born in 1947). Those years after all were the very beginning of the baby boom, and it has been suggested that politicians born in those years had less competition than they might otherwise have had from politicians born one to ten years earlier, due to the birth dearth of the Depression and World War II.

Easiest thing for 1947 is Mitt beats Obama in 2012 and Hillary beats Mitt in 2016.

So you just need an earlier 1947 without butterflying Obama away.
 
Walter Mondale, Birch Bayh, and Paul Simon were all born in 1928, though god knows how you get three northern Liberals of the same political generation into the oval office.

1936 seems a potentially fruitful year for this: John McCain, Gary Hart, and Bob Graham were all born that year, including a fair few other non-obviously presidential senators such as Liddy Dole and George Voinovich.
 
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