AHC: Thor's Hammer as one of the UK's Crown Jewels

I think it's more likely that events will happen in the opposite order of what people claim here. First an old hammer gets incorporated into the coronation ceremony, and then later folklore starts to claim it's Mjolnir.
This is what happened with the fanciful stories about the swords used in coronation. The stories could easily pop up as even in as late as the late 1800s during that era of romanticizing folklore. It could even show up more recently, considering how there are OTL stories about Hitler owning the Spear of Destiny.
 
Not necessarily. In Sweden the Norse heritage was celebrated well into the 19th century. It was reasoned that the gods Odin, Thor, etc. were actually merely mortal human kings that had, on account of their glorious rules, been mythologized and worshiped as gods by their ignorant ancestors who plainly didn't know better because Rome had no missions to Scandinavia at the time. But they were still historical characters, and they had still accomplished great feats, and were therefore to be celebrated.

It was first at the end of the 19th century that Swedish scholars started going "you know, I think Odin, Thor and all these guys may be no more historical than King Arthur".

If Odin and Thor were actual royal figures of ancient antiquity, they would have to have been around WAY way back, maybe before the birth of Christ.

I think it's more likely that events will happen in the opposite order of what people claim here. First an old hammer gets incorporated into the coronation ceremony, and then later folklore starts to claim it's Mjolnir.
This is what happened with the fanciful stories about the swords used in coronation. The stories could easily pop up as even in as late as the late 1800s during that era of romanticizing folklore. It could even show up more recently, considering how there are OTL stories about Hitler owning the Spear of Destiny.

Agreed. Though IIRC the idea of Hitler owning the Spear of Destiny ended with something along the lines of "He who plays with fire will get burned".

Probably explains the ASB stories of the Spear falling into the hands of Arthur (who was based on a very real if very shadowy person), Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Henry V, Henry VII, Frederick the Great, Napoleon, and so on.

Which gives me an idea for a discussion thread....
 
What was its title? Holy shit, the Hapsburg v. Hohenzollern battle would be epic... this opens up so many possibilities.

It's called Royals: Masters of War. Apart from royals having powers history pretty much happened as recorded; still an Ameircan Revolution, still a French Revolution, and it isn't until World War II that things change
 
Simple. Have it be a thing that the Saxons conquered from the Danelaw, and which they kept out of spite instead of destroying it.

Maybe Thor was the name of one of the invaders and this was his warhammer. No need to bring religion into it.
 

shiftygiant

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It's called Royals: Masters of War. Apart from royals having powers history pretty much happened as recorded; still an Ameircan Revolution, still a French Revolution, and it isn't until World War II that things change

I'll admit, I was disappointed at seeing it wasn't Princess Elizabeth downing Doodlebugs by karate chopping them mid-flight, but what you gonna do?

Mjölnir could always be Harald Hardrada's War Hammer that Harold II takes a trophy after Stamford's bridge (Hardada deliberately has it made with a short handle for loosely ceremonial reasons). Upon his death and defeat at Hastings, William takes it as his own trophy, and legends begin to circulate that it is the real Mjölnir...

Either way, even if it isn't the real deal, this Mjölnir would still be considered a Crown Jewel or Royal Regalia given it's heritage.
 
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Art

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Not really. . .

There is an Emperor Temmu. As in Temmu Jin, the semi-mythical founder of the Japanese Imperial line. And George VI reign name is Albert, not George like his father. And Prince's Henry and Arthur? Really strange!
 
There is an Emperor Temmu. As in Temmu Jin, the semi-mythical founder of the Japanese Imperial line. And George VI reign name is Albert, not George like his father. And Prince's Henry and Arthur? Really strange!

Hunh? Is this in the wrong thread? Or what is it replying to?
 
A very different Avengers. Who would play Queen Elizabeth (as Thor) in the movies? Helen Mirran again?:p

Too old. Special effects (CGI) aren't up to the job when Helen Mirren was of the right age.

It would have to be Emily Blunt, if she isn't signed for Marvel Film's Captain Marvel, which appears highly likely at this point, since they've already declared Katie Sackhoff isn't in the running.
 
John would have lost it in The Wash.
Although he could have used it to turn the waves back.
Wonder how this would have affected Canute's reign?
 
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