AHC: The USA owns territory in Europe?

Going with the post-WWII base idea, maybe Heligoland? Some base on the north German coast?

The other option I see is Iceland, after some US purchase of Greenland.

If, using some early POD, Britain goes *Fascist and fights a major war against the US, I could see the US taking some British overseas territories, like Malta or Gibraltar, for itself.
 
A sharp increase in Muslim immigration, maybe?

Seeing as the Second Great Awakening is happening around the same time that could lead to some interesting results...

Meerkat92 said:
If Tunis, Algiers, and Tripolitania were all admitted independently as states (assuming their admission wouldn't get stonewalled for being Muslim), that would be three extra slave states entering the Union at a comparatively young age. Maybe that would be the first really serious factional split: the southern states pushing for the admittance of the Barbary Coast as several slave states, while the northern states try to stonewall it, both out of a desire to keep non-Christians out and to keep the balance between slave and free states.

They could all be admitted as a single state instead of three separate states; both to break up the local power bases and to maintain the balance in the Senate. That might also make see Liberia end up as an American territory and later state with the North African precedent.

Beyond that adding North African states to the US has some serious ramifications long-term as far as who and what can become a US state. A lot of things like the Mexican-American War and the Civil War could be seriously impacted and if something like the Spanish-American War happens assuming something recognizably like it does that could lead to some serious American expansionism overseas.

Meerkat92 said:
Hmmm...I think I might have an idea for a TL for this summer...;)

I'd read it, that would be interesting.
 
The Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial is in France and is owned by the United States OTL.
I think what the OP is looking for is sovereign territory, not property.

Most sovereign states have real estate spread around the world, as you pointed out by the embassies example. Most would probably just rent the buildings that will become embassies or consulates, some would see it fit to buy some of them. And it's not just the diplomatic buildings, there are schools to serve the expatriate community that are owned by that community's origin state, language and cultural institutes, etc.
 
how about US takes Canaries in spanish american war?

Later morocco seeks US aid to defend itself from French and Spanish ambitions leading to USN bases on both the islands and in Morocco.

This curtails some of the French ambition on Africa and leads to some hostility with Europeans over their African colonial Empires.

This causes the US to strengthen Liberia's naval abilities to aid in the defense of US Canaries and ally Morocco.

German hostility in the Pacific leads to more conflict as Germany considers attacking US Canaries and invading Morocco.

France is allowed to have greater gains in Morocco's markets than Spain or Portugal or Germany. 1900 group of Spain, Portugal, and Germany attacks US Canaries invades Morocco and shells Liberia. Ships are also sent to invade US east coast to take New York.

It takes over 2 years for war to end with Portugal being the most successful in the late war and Spain's and Germany's fleets succeeding in defeating the US Atlantic fleet early in the war and having naval dominance till the arrival of the Pacific fleet.

Land war results in Portugal being convinced by Britian to sue for a separate peace. Who then protects Portugal from US invasion of retribution. US pulls back due to British backing and Portugal pulling back its naval power which is the majority after destruction of the German and Spanish fleets.

US troops with French help free Liberia from short occupation. French troops also help free Spanish controlled Morocco.

US blockage and bombardment of Germany. While US invasion of Spain results in defeat and total US occupation. Germany eventually surrenders and is forced to give up interest in the Pacific and some African colonial territory to the USA and France.

Portugal agrees to give up Portuguese Guinea(guinea-bissau) which the US trades for part of French Guinean territory(Guinea) which is turned over to Liberia which it had lost to France. Portugal's only concession.

German new Guinea is split between the US and France with France getting the Solomons and the Bismarck Archipelogo, the US getting the Karolinas and rest of the Marianas and Marshalls, and Samoas. The US also got Togoland which it administers through aid of Liberia. France gained more Kamerun territory which it added to French Central Africa. France got Nauru, Bourgainville, and Kaiser's Wilhem's island.

US remains in occupation of Spain indefinitely with six US bases built and the Spanish Navy disbanded.

Morocco gains back all Spain's territorial acquisitions in it.

Interestingly US leases Spanish Guinea to Belgium control till 1917 during WW1.

US occupation of Spain last till 1936 in 1953 US troops return during WW2 to liberate Spain from Nazi Germany and fascist Spanish and post war occupation last till 1983 when South Spain joins the Union.

How is this TL?
 
how about US takes Canaries in spanish american war?

Later morocco seeks US aid to defend itself from French and Spanish ambitions leading to USN bases on both the islands and in Morocco.

This curtails some of the French ambition on Africa and leads to some hostility with Europeans over their African colonial Empires.

This causes the US to strengthen Liberia's naval abilities to aid in the defense of US Canaries and ally Morocco.

German hostility in the Pacific leads to more conflict as Germany considers attacking US Canaries and invading Morocco.

France is allowed to have greater gains in Morocco's markets than Spain or Portugal or Germany. 1900 group of Spain, Portugal, and Germany attacks US Canaries invades Morocco and shells Liberia. Ships are also sent to invade US east coast to take New York.

It takes over 2 years for war to end with Portugal being the most successful in the late war and Spain's and Germany's fleets succeeding in defeating the US Atlantic fleet early in the war and having naval dominance till the arrival of the Pacific fleet.

Land war results in Portugal being convinced by Britian to sue for a separate peace. Who then protects Portugal from US invasion of retribution. US pulls back due to British backing and Portugal pulling back its naval power which is the majority after destruction of the German and Spanish fleets.

US troops with French help free Liberia from short occupation. French troops also help free Spanish controlled Morocco.

US blockage and bombardment of Germany. While US invasion of Spain results in defeat and total US occupation. Germany eventually surrenders and is forced to give up interest in the Pacific and some African colonial territory to the USA and France.

Portugal agrees to give up Portuguese Guinea(guinea-bissau) which the US trades for part of French Guinean territory(Guinea) which is turned over to Liberia which it had lost to France. Portugal's only concession.

German new Guinea is split between the US and France with France getting the Solomons and the Bismarck Archipelogo, the US getting the Karolinas and rest of the Marianas and Marshalls, and Samoas. The US also got Togoland which it administers through aid of Liberia. France gained more Kamerun territory which it added to French Central Africa. France got Nauru, Bourgainville, and Kaiser's Wilhem's island.

US remains in occupation of Spain indefinitely with six US bases built and the Spanish Navy disbanded.

Morocco gains back all Spain's territorial acquisitions in it.

Interestingly US leases Spanish Guinea to Belgium control till 1917 during WW1.

US occupation of Spain last till 1936 in 1953 US troops return during WW2 to liberate Spain from Nazi Germany and fascist Spanish and post war occupation last till 1983 when South Spain joins the Union.

How is this TL?

If the POD's in 1898 I doubt we'd see the rise of modern fascism as we known it, much less the risekf the Nazi's.
 
Defeating the Barbary Pirates might lead to an early holding in North Africa (Tunis, Tripoli and Algiers). That, in turn, might lead to something in Southern Europe? Portugal, Madiera and the Azores? The Two Sicilies?

Now that has legs :) I like it

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Grey Wolf
 
With any POD you want, have the United States control territory in the British Isles, or European mainland.

PoD: Edward of Kent dies without offspring, and William of Clarence predeceases George IV. Ernest Augustus of Cumberland succeeds to the throne as Ernest I.

Cumberland was a hated reactionary. Britain at the time was in a state of ferment, with many people prepared for open rebellion if parliamentary reform didn't pass. (OTL it passed by one vote.)

With Cumberland's baleful influence against it, it fails. Violent disorders break out. King Ernest, backed by the Duke of Wellington, rallies sufficient military and police power to suppress the disorders.

Britain decays into an authoritarian reactionary police state. Vast numbers of liberal Britons emigrate to America, included many who are wanted by the political police.

The U.S. becomes the champion of democracy and freedom in the "anglosphere" against the repressive British Empire. Ernest's Britain responds to the 1837 rebellions in Canada with savage repression that alienates Canadians; a second rebellion with U.S. support succeeds, and Canada joins the U.S.

When the Great Famine strikes Ireland, the British government flatly refuses to relax the Corn Laws and allow tariff-free grain imports. Starving Irish become indentured workers in English factories. Any who get out of line are dumped in Australia as convict labor. Many flee to America, where the sufferings of Ireland become legend. Some Irish are dumped in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia; this leads to those colonies joining the Second Canadian Revolution.

The Whig Party is more successful than OTL; instead of Harrison dying and Clay losing by a hair, the Whigs have two solid Presidencies and become the dominant party. The U.S. still acquires Texas, Utah, and California as settlers in those regions throw off Mexican rule and apply to the U.S.

But it does not lead to a sectional crisis. There are four new free states in former Canada, and immigration of British dissidents has shifted political discourse to the left - against slavery. When Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware adopt gradual emancipation laws, some Deep South Fire-Eaters call for secession, but get little support.

Some of them form a conspiracy with British agents, as the British government wants to cripple the U.S., secure its cotton supply, and regards the U.S. as nest of subversion. But the plot leaks out, further poisoning relations and discrediting secessionism.

Kentucky adopts emancipation. West Virginia separates from Virginia and adopts emancipation. The new western states of California, Oregon, and Columbia are free, though Texas is slave. There are 28 free states to 11 slave states. Slavery is squeezed out gradually.

By this time, Ernest is long dead, but Britain is locked into the political culture he created.

Australia is a prison state, with a handful of planters ruling over a mass of convict and indentured laborers. When the revolution occurs, circa 1890, the U.S. first recognizes the rebels and then admits Australia to the Union. The great distance is a problem, but the telegraph, steamship, and railroad make it possible. (Less travel time than from Washington to New Orleans in 1812.) A Constitutional Amendment provides for representation in the Senate only and a local Congress for local matters.

The British government is very angry, but can't do much about it. Britain is not as much of an industrial giant as OTL.

Sometime in the 1900s, Britain merges with rising Germany and does become an industrial giant, but still as repressive as ever. Imported German police prop up the regime. Overt slavery in the West Indies has been abolished, but white supremacy and de facto slavery remain.

The U.S., having shed overt slavery, sees a civil rights movement start a generation later, and succeed rather quickly - in part because of Britain's bad example and the ongoing influx of liberal immigrants.

Friction with the U.S. over Britain's brutal repression in the West Indies leads to open war. The war ends with the U.S. liberating Britain, which joins the U.S.
 
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