AHC: The Native Americans

Create at least 3 Native American countries (North and South combined) that survive till modern day. Bonus if one of them manages to become a superpower
 
Let's see:
1. Athabascan Confederacy (Russian-influenced)
2. Rupert's Land (Cree-dominated, but minority languages such as Objiwa, Michif and Bungee Creole are allowed).
3. Iroquois Confederacy.
4. Cascadia (OTL southern British Columbia and most of Washington state (except the areas near Columbia River), Salishan-dominated)
5. Oregon Country (Chinook as the lingua franca)
6. Lakota (OTL North and South Dakota, actually a collection of Siouan peoples)
7. Oklahoma (same as OTL, but Comanche is the lingua franca)
8. Anasazi (most of OTL northern half of New Mexico, dominated by the Kiowas who adapted sedentary lifestyle of their linguistic kin and much of the population have at least a descendant from the native Mexican captives, both male and female)
9. Navajo Nation.
10. Michigan (OTL Lower Peninsula, but dominated by Pottawatomie and other branches of Algonquian peoples)
 
Inca Empire is able to expel Spaniards neither any other power too be able or intrested conquer that and so the country survives.

Iroquois Confederacy is able to survive until modern day.

In Central America some Maya city could survive much longer. In OTL last Maya city fell on 17th century so it not be total impossible.

Or then in Amazonia is unknown city state which anyone haven't found.

But this any can't be super power. Inca Empire can be local great power though.
 
Inca Empire is able to expel Spaniards neither any other power too be able or intrested conquer that and so the country survives.

Iroquois Confederacy is able to survive until modern day.

In Central America some Maya city could survive much longer. In OTL last Maya city fell on 17th century so it not be total impossible.

Or then in Amazonia is unknown city state which anyone haven't found.

But this any can't be super power. Inca Empire can be local great power though.

I think Inca could be persuaded to ally with the Portuguese.
 
Tawantinsuyu would have survived had its Sapa Inka not been an idiot and go meet the Spaniards with no weapons.

Have Wayna Qhapaq's succession not be disputed. Tawantinsuyu goes through another Sapa Inka without much trouble until the plagues start coming. The Spaniards come and go, thinking its too much trouble to try and conquer them like they did Mexico, and that's a surviving Tawantinsuyu.
 
Tawantinsuyu's downfall is an IRL example of Murphy's Law; a stabler Empire could've easily avoided outright conquest by the Spanish; it would've surely felt Spanish influence, but it would've been to Spain what Bhutan, Nepal or Tibet were to Britain.
 
Tawantinsuyu's downfall is an IRL example of Murphy's Law; a stabler Empire could've easily avoided outright conquest by the Spanish; it would've surely felt Spanish influence, but it would've been to Spain what Bhutan, Nepal or Tibet were to Britain.

True. Tawantinsuyu had amazing bad luck during its last years. It just should have avoid devastating civil war and so it could survive. Diseases caused much damage for the empire but civil war was fateful.
 
The Mosquito Kingdom is one of the easiest to create without disrupting the rest of history too much.

The Mayan State of Chan Santa Cruz or Crusoob is another one.

Both of these states had British backing at some point.

Another possibility is in Araucania and Patagonia. I don't know if the kingdom founded by Orélie-Antoine de Tounens would could, being founded by a Frenchman and at, but his legitimacy came from his Mapuche supporters and I imagine his dynasty would intermarry with Mapuches if it survived. Otherwise, the region maintained a Native American majority and remained unconquered for quite some time, so another foundation is possible.

The last easy suggestion is an independent Greenland, or should I say, Kalaalit Nunaat. It would have an indigenous majority and leadership.

A more difficult proposition is an independent Mohawk reservation based on the Mohawk lands of Quebec. This microstate might have come into play if Quebec became independent in the 1980's, as the Mohawk leadership considered seceding from Quebec after its hypothetical independence and the leadership of Quebec at the time seemed game to let them go.

In some ways, Paraguay is sort-of like an independent American Indian nation, as the Guarani cultural, linguistic, and genetic influences are a deep part of its roots.
 
The Mosquito Kingdom is one of the easiest to create without disrupting the rest of history too much.

The Mayan State of Chan Santa Cruz or Crusoob is another one.

Both of these states had British backing at some point.

Another possibility is in Araucania and Patagonia. I don't know if the kingdom founded by Orélie-Antoine de Tounens would could, being founded by a Frenchman and at, but his legitimacy came from his Mapuche supporters and I imagine his dynasty would intermarry with Mapuches if it survived. Otherwise, the region maintained a Native American majority and remained unconquered for quite some time, so another foundation is possible.

The last easy suggestion is an independent Greenland, or should I say, Kalaalit Nunaat. It would have an indigenous majority and leadership.

A more difficult proposition is an independent Mohawk reservation based on the Mohawk lands of Quebec. This microstate might have come into play if Quebec became independent in the 1980's, as the Mohawk leadership considered seceding from Quebec after its hypothetical independence and the leadership of Quebec at the time seemed game to let them go.

In some ways, Paraguay is sort-of like an independent American Indian nation, as the Guarani cultural, linguistic, and genetic influences are a deep part of its roots.

New France and/or the Pacific Northwest could have become a North American equivalent of Paraguay, if they had survived and if immigration of people of European descent had remained limited, or restricted to a few cities or towns: making them survive wouldn't be hard, preventing the "palefaces" from ethnically cleansing and settling such rich and vast lands en masse, on the other hand...
 
Superpower is pretty lolzy. The US gets to be a superpower because it controls vast temperate territory; an indigenous state wouldn't be able to do that without developing some sort of pan-American nationalism that could not possibly exist in the relevant timeframe.

Actual state... well, Paraguay is an indigenous nation. Bolivia is sort of indigenous - in the 2001 census, a small majority of the population identified as Quechua or Aymara, but in 2012 it was down to about a third (coming of course from assimilation and Hispanicization, not immigration or ethnic cleansing). Mexico took a while to pacify Yucatan, so it could be the third one. Peru might well be a fourth one - it's more Hispanic than Bolivia, but it has huge Quechua and Aymara minorities, and you could probably butterfly some Hispanicization away with a carefully chosen rebellion or something.
 
I wonder... the survival of the Inca Empire has been deemed very likely by everyone on this thread, but how would Tawantinsuyu develop next to the Spanish? The ruling class would probably find the Latin alphabet very useful, for administrative/bureaucratic purposes and as a tool to spread the Quechua language throughout the empire even more thoroughly, but the adoption of Christianity would undermine the power of the priestly class and that of the Sapa Inca himself, and the adoption of a monetary system would shatter the centrally planned economic system on which the state depended. *

Any takers?

* A system that, to me, has always looked like a hybrid between communism and feudalism; what if some visionary Spanish theologian saw in Tawantinsuyu's economic system a way to make all of mankind equal before God, to get rid of the diabolic influence of money, and to eventually get burned at the stake for heresy? :D
 
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I wonder... the survival of the Inca Empire has been deemed very likely by everyone on this thread, but how would Tawantinsuyu develop next to the Spanish? The ruling class would probably find the Latin alphabet very useful, for administrative/bureaucratic purposes and as a tool to spread the Quechua language throughout the empire even more thoroughly, but the adoption of Christianity would undermine the power of the priestly class and that of the Sapa Inca himself, and the adoption of a monetary system would shatter the centrally planned economic system on which the state depended. *

Any takers?

* A system that, to me, has always looked like a hybrid between communism and feudalism; what if some visionary Spanish theologian saw in Tawantinsuyu's economic system a way to make all of mankind equal before God, to get rid of the diabolic influence of money, and to eventually get burned at the stake for heresy? :D

You'd probably have the Inca as a sort of tributary state to Spain or possibly other European powers. Their survival and success depends on how well they can play the Europeans off of each other. Civil wars will be supported by outside European states, and any slights against European missionaries or merchants will be grounds for a local expedition against them. Their best advantage against this is the fact they're so remote. Europeans will be perpetually interested in them since they have such massive amounts of silver in their empire, silver which the Europeans will desperately be needing as silver sources in Europe run dry as the centuries pass. I suspect that parts of the Inca Empire will be peeled off by Spain, probably the Chilean region and Ecuador.

Would they necessarily convert to Christianity? I think you'd see a situation more akin to vassalisation of Asian countries by European powers. There will certainly be expeditions by Spain into the Inca, but I'm not totally convinced they'd abandon their religion so readily. It could end up like Shinto in Japan, which I've seen the Inca religion compared to.

If they did convert, it would probably be from below, associated with a peasant rebellion following some sort of mutated Catholicism, that the Spanish would seize upon and use to further manipulate the state.

If anything like 19th century imperialism develops, then the Inca could get annexed by a European country, or could modernise their state and possibly prosper like Japan or hold on like Thailand or Ethiopia.
 
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