AHC: Surviving Native American Countries

[Divergent54]

Your challenge is to have at least one Native American country survive attempts at settlement/colonization and exist in the present day.

The Incas or the Tawantinsouyou has the highest chance of surviving to the present day. I believe there's a timeline somewhere here about an Inca surviving . . .

 

[Roger II]

Britain does not give up the Mosquito Coast Protectorate in the 1860s, but retains and strengthens it. Perhaps there's some idea about a base for a canal across Nicaragua, but this never comes to anything. Nicaragua and Honduras don't like it, but they're too poor, weak and backward to do anything about it. The old Mosquito Kingdom expires in the early 1900s, and Britain takes a more hands-on, colonial approach. There is some black immigration from the West Indies, but except in a few areas it's mostly absorbed by the Miskito. Missionary societies are using the Miskito language in evangelising, and very slowly a small but growing educated elite is formed.

With the end of colonialism the protectorate becomes independant as the 'Republic of Miskitia' during the 1960s. Nicaragua protests, but with international recognitiomn can do nothing. (cf Belize and Guatemala) Today Miskitia is a sleepy, rather backward Caribbean country that is a member of the Commonwealth and plays cricket. It's just that the majority of the population and the dominant group are indigenous Americans with their own traditions, and their language, Miskito is widely used and is co-official with English.

If you're going for the British staying involved in Central America why not go with Britain supporting Chan Santa Cruz?

 

[Lenwe]

And I believe that pre-Spanish Colonisation they were reasonably successful at resisting the Incas, weren't they? The Mapuche certainly deserve their own state. So you're saying that to continue to resist the Chileans what is needed is more unity among different Mapuche groups? Is there any way that the fantastic project by Orelie-Antoine de Tounens to form a 'Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia' could possib,y succeed?

Well, yes they need more unity, but not in the way you Expect, If the Mapuches during the Independence War were unanimously battling against the Spanish and not like in OTL were different Tribes supported or the Spanish or the Chileans. They could possibly being considered Chileans from the start of the country with the same rights and benefits than the average citizens.not Dissimilar than OTL Paraguay, after all the Republic on his cradle look up the Araucanian warrior as and example to follow and a romantic ideal to achieve, but the Guerra a muerte soured that possibility.

The first Chilean independence symbol was not a flag, but this:

Plus was really Fashionable to use Mapuche's Style Clothe to signify you affiliation to the Independence Cause.
That being said a lot of Mapuches That supported the Chileans from the start ended part of the landholding elite, specially until the German colonization in the 1860, were they intermarried with the german colonist, there is a reason green eyed brown skin is really common here

Edit: this photo is of a Mapuche Model Ximena Huilipán

 

[Nomis Nosnibor]

And using Captured Cannons in the 1560, don´t forget that, they, barely 20 years after the initial contact, passed from a semi-nomad, hunter gardeners stone age culture to an iron working sedentary-agricultural horse riding one, meanwhile fighting a war against the Spanish and being decimated and ravaged by European Diseases, In true the only reason Mapuches were incorporated to Chile was because the majority wanted to be part of Chile, I insiste the Pacification of the Araucania was more a Civil war between the different Mapuches polities, about being or not incorporated to the Chilean country,

Some reading about
http://www.memoriachilena.gob.cl/archivos2/pdfs/MC0054412.pdf

Thanks for the link, a most interrst

And using Captured Cannons in the 1560, don´t forget that, they, barely 20 years after the initial contact, passed from a semi-nomad, hunter gardeners stone age culture to an iron working sedentary-agricultural horse riding one, meanwhile fighting a war against the Spanish and being decimated and ravaged by European Diseases, In true the only reason Mapuches were incorporated to Chile was because the majority wanted to be part of Chile, I insiste the Pacification of the Araucania was more a Civil war between the different Mapuches polities, about being or not incorporated to the Chilean country,

Some reading about
http://www.memoriachilena.gob.cl/archivos2/pdfs/MC0054412.pdf

Gracias una lectura interesante

 

[P L Richards]

If you're going for the British staying involved in Central America why not go with Britain supporting Chan Santa Cruz?

Yes, that too - has the potential to develop into an independant Maya state