AHC: Stronger Philippines?

There are two AHCs for the price of one thread here. Your challenge is to:

1. Leave the Philippines with considerably more territory by 2011; or to
2. Make the Philippines independent earlier, and with more economic power by 2011.
 
Adopt the economic policies of its more successful neighbors in OTL (eg. singapore, korea,japan).
The Philippines was quite a powerhouse in the region until the 60's when stagflation finally broke the country.
 
2. Napoleon wins and rules over most of Europe. Spain is far too weak to hold onto its colonial empire in Asia and Latin America. Several Filipinos, influenced by the French Revolution and the recent war of independence in Mexico, overthrows the Spaniards? :confused:
 
Independen Philippines during that era?? It might probably be taken by Britain or US if it doesn't strengthen sooner.
 
Adopt the economic policies of its more successful neighbors in OTL (eg. singapore, korea,japan).
The Philippines was quite a powerhouse in the region until the 60's when stagflation finally broke the country.

Being held up by the American bubble didn't help either, but this is pre-1900 here.

2. Napoleon wins and rules over most of Europe. Spain is far too weak to hold onto its colonial empire in Asia and Latin America. Several Filipinos, influenced by the French Revolution and the recent war of independence in Mexico, overthrows the Spaniards? :confused:

Could work, but see below...

Independen Philippines during that era?? It might probably be taken by Britain or US if it doesn't strengthen sooner.

Britain can take it in the Napoleonic era - the USA has no Pacific coast yet, but given how hard pressed even the OTL US and Japan were holding the archipelago, they might reconsider.

Another possibility I'm eyeing is Britain keeping us after the Seven Years War.
 
Independen Philippines during that era?? It might probably be taken by Britain or US if it doesn't strengthen sooner.

I don't recall Japan becoming a British or US colony. I don't see why the British would bother to take the Philipines if the locals didn't want the Spaniards to rule over them. They would be repeating the same mistakes when they tried to conquer Argentina.
 
I don't recall Japan becoming a British or US colony. I don't see why the British would bother to take the Philipines if the locals didn't want the Spaniards to rule over them. They would be repeating the same mistakes when they tried to conquer Argentina.

And even with the Royal Navy it's harder controlling an archipelago - the Dutch didn't even administer Indonesia as a united entity.
 
I still think that an independent Philippines after napoleonic wars will be weaker, as there is less nationalistic identity in the islands, even in the Philippine- Spanish war and American - Philippine wars, the country was prone to division by ethnic groups.

It was in the later half of the 19th century that the islands actually worked together.
 
I still think that an independent Philippines after napoleonic wars will be weaker, as there is less nationalistic identity in the islands, even in the Philippine- Spanish war and American - Philippine wars, the country was prone to division by ethnic groups.

It was in the later half of the 19th century that the islands actually worked together.

Liberalizing Spain helped a lot, and being the only colony left outside Cuba meant a lot.
 
Well, creating an empire in OTL Philippines was a plan of the Bolkiah dynasty, I think what is now Philippines would be better off without the Bolkiah dynasty usurping and marrying into the Royal Houses of Tondo and Sulu, I think had the Tondo continued their dominance in what is now known as Luzon, Luzon will continue to have a Buddhist Nobility which will hinder any unification with a State with a different religion and if Sulu defeated the Bruneian threat Sulu will be a Strong Muslim nation and both the House of Tondo and the House of Sulu will rule their own realms which will be strong states which will be able to survive the Spanish Conquest and into decolonization. I think a Philippines with Borneo is stronger than OTL Philippines.
 
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Could a war in the 1850's or 1860's between the U.S. and Spain have prompted Philippine independence sooner than was true in our timeline?
 
There are two AHCs for the price of one thread here. Your challenge is to:

1. Leave the Philippines with considerably more territory by 2011; or to
2. Make the Philippines independent earlier, and with more economic power by 2011.

Those are two very hard conditions you have there. The best point of time Philippines to be independent would be around 1899. I would assume that the 1899 Malolos Philippine Republic would industrialize much like Japan did and would have the same philosophy as Japan, make Philippine nation strong to resist foreign powers.

Once you have both economic and military power, additional territories will be easier to come by either by force or by purchase.

If you do note that if you consider the Malolos Republic, it considers Palau and Guam as part of the Philippines. Guam and Palau were being managed by the Spanish Governor-General in Manila. Therefore, Philippines will be already larger than OTL.

:D
 
How about a different colonial power for the Philippines other than Britain and the USA? Perhaps the Dutch take control of the islands during the 30YW?
 
I honestly doubt that a Dutch domination would be very beneficial. IOTL, Indonesia punches somewhat under her weight class I'd say, and the Dutch politicies weren't particularly oriented to build industry or to benefit the natives in general, though there were some exceptions.

For larger Philippines, I think that Marianas, Palau and Sabah are what they could realistically get. Possibly Taiwan with a very early POD (there was some Spanish attempt to control the place IOTL). Stretching things a little, Talaud and Sangihe islands, the Carolines, less likely the Marshalls.
In Borneo, maybe some more land beyond OTL's Sabah area, though the whole thing is extremely unlikely.
 
--- 2013 April 1

PRNS CVH-3 Tandang Sora, flagship of the Philippine coast guard returns to Manila, ending its six months relief operation in Fukushima, Japan.

The Philippine Navy redeploy elements of the 2nd Pacific Fleet to West Philippine sea to enforce the ongoing fishing ban in the area. Several Chinese vessels were boarded and currently detained at Subic Naval Base, over the course of thirty days.

The king of Korea arrives at the royal sanctuary island of Sulu to mediate peace-talks between the PRC and the PHR.
 
What about Brunei annexing or Vassalizing the Sulu Sultanate, Maguindanao, Cebu and Madya-as since Brunei already has Luzon and Palawan, I think if Brunei annexed or at least Vassalized them, OTL Philippines would be under Bruneian Control and it is possible that the Bolkiah Empire would survive to the Present creating a state that has Luzon, Visayas, Palawan, Mindanao and Borneo.
 
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