AHC: Some of your favorite films premade into classics.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is unlucky no matter what TL

That indeed was the idea. I cant even pretend to lack bias but Crystal Skull is ironically the perfect 50's b-movie mess of personal idiocy, lack of interest and an FX coating. Honestly, if Lucas had stuck with Indiana Jones and the Attack of the Giant Ants - it would have been more honest.
 
Over on a page on a 1973 Dune movie we come up with this movie.
Dune 1973
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=246457

Produced by Arthur P Jacob.
Directed by Franklin J Schaffner ( He be a better choice than Charles Jarrott.) He done Sci Fi before with Planet of the Apes, as well as epic films like Patton andd the Warlord.

Script first draft by Rospo Pallenberg. Final draft by Ray Bradbury and Harlin Ellison.

Cinematography by Fred Koenekamp (Did Patton with Schaffner)
Music Jerry Goldsmith (Work with Jacobs on Planet of the Ape and Schaffner on Patton)

Makeup John Chambers (Work on Planet of the Apes)
Effect by L A Abbott and A D Flowers (Oscar for Tora Tora Tora)
Space efects by Douglas Trumbull (2001 A Space Odessey)
Sandworm animation by Jim Danforth (Nominated for Oscar in 1971 for When Dinosaurs rule the Earth)


Paul Atreides- Micheal York
Gurney Halleck- Jame Coburn
Baron Harkonnen- Charlton Heston
Piter De Vries- Tom Baker
Feyd-Rautha- Maclcom Mcdowell
Emperor- Orson Wells
Princess Irulan -Oliva Hussey
Stilgar-Omar Sharif
Thufir hawat- Brian Blessed
Duncan Idoho- Robert Powell
Dr Wellington Yueh- Patrick Stewart
Glossu Rabban- Bud Spencer


We still need suggestion for the following
Lady Jessica
Alia atreides
Liet Kynes the imperial ecologist
The Reverend Mother
And Chani

Plot wise. It see film starting with the Princess explanning the backgroung.
Opening Credits
Than we start with the Harkonnen Raid on the Atreides on Arrakis.
We see Paul and jessica escape to the desert and meet the Freman.
(Any thing from the beginning of the book, can be seen in Flashback but I like the Idea of starting with the Assult. We get off with a bang>)
Plot stick with the book then till the end. Film Focus on the Conflict between the Harkonnen, the Emperor and the Freman now lead by Paul.

Arthur P Jacob (Of Planet of the Apes fame) own the rights n the early 1970's. He tried to get the film off the ground.
He wanted David Lean but could not get him. He pick Charles Jarrott, director of "Anne of a Thousand Days" as Director.
The script was first written by Robert Greenhut but Jacob was not happy with the results and hired Rospo Pallebberg for the second draft.

Jacob plan to start filming in 1974 but he died in 1973 and the project died with him.
So We have to assume Jacobe better health and get the film out the ground quicker to have a version in 1973.

I suspect that much of the Book Dune would be lost in a effert to make a action based Movie, much the same as the adaption of Planet of the Apes did.
 
Back to the Future

"Zurück in die Zukunft"
Deutschland, 1957

German teenager Martin von Fliege gets accidentially send on a trip 30 years back in time to his parents' youth in the roaring 20s. There he shows the sleepy town of Hügeltal how Rock'n'Roll swings just as well...

Billy Wilder's only return to Germany as director of a purely German production proved a commercial hit across Europe and a over time a beloved classic while panned by contemporary critics for its Oedipal allusions and the ignorance concerning Germany's troubled past.
Remade in 2007 for an American audience.


Cast

Heinz Rühmann - Dr. Ernst Braun
Götz George - Martin von Fliege
Hardy Krüger - Dolf Tanner
Liselotte Pulver - Loreley Berger / von Fliege
Dieter Hallervorden - Georg von Fliege
Gerd Fröbe - Prof. Strickland
the time machine - a Mercedes 300 SL
 
"Zurück in die Zukunft"
Deutschland, 1957

German teenager Martin von Fliege gets accidentially send on a trip 30 years back in time to his parents' youth in the roaring 20s. There he shows the sleepy town of Hügeltal how Rock'n'Roll swings just as well...

Ninja-ed... :(
 
Alt-Alt- The Back to the Future Trilogy

Ahhh... the Tucker Torpedo is well enough. But it is my favourite movie and I couldn't resists once the Gullwing-Mercedes crossed my mind.

Push the US remake a few decades earlier ;-)

I can't due the casting that I wantd to use... but there is here the Alternate ATL version of the trilogy ;)

EDIT: thanks to unclepatrick for the casting of Boris Karloff and Richard Anderson, direction by JAck Arnold and scriptwriters

- The Back to the Future Trilogy (1954, 1956, 1957)
Director: Jack Arnold
Producer: George Pal

Back to the Future (1954)
Back to the Future 2: Zigzag (1956)
Back to the Future 3: Journey to the West (1957)


Script by Cyril M. Kornbluth and Robert Sheckley
Special Consultant: Robert A. Heinlein
Soundtrack: Henry Mancini

Marty McFly: James Dean
Dr. Emmett “Doc” Brown: Boris Karloff
Jennifer Parker: Lee Meriweather
George McFly: Richard Anderson
Lorraine Baines: Anne Francis
Biff Tannen: Marlon Brando
Clara Clayton: Anne Shirley
Principal Strickland: Edward G. Robinson
The Time Machine: 1948 Tucker Torpedo Sedan

One of the great surprises sucesses of 50's was the "Back to the Future" science fiction trilogy of movies, directed by Jack Arnold, whose theme tune by Henry Mancini is now iconic.

The first movie tells how the Zemeckis Hills teenager Marty McFly (James Dean) travels back in time with a machine build in a 1948 Tucker Sedan (of all cars!) by his friend, Dr. Emmett Brown (Boris Karloff) to 1924, where he accidently prevent his parents (Anne Francis and Richard Anderson) to meet eachother. And now with the help of the 1924's Dr. Brown, he had to make they to fall in love with eaac otheror he would disappear
This movie was a movie box hit, due both the hilarious use of fish-out-of-water reactions of Dean's character (both to the difference between 1924's extravaganza and 1954's Wild world, as demonstrated when Dean's character plays 1950's rock music at his parents' ball) as due the surprising comedic timing of the main leads (Karloff astonishes as the wild, clumsy but kind-hearted mad scientist Dr. Emmett Brown, a role that revitalized his career and showed his range as an actor for a bigger audience).

In the second movie, the young man and the scientist zigzag between 1984 (a hilarious vision of how that year would be!) and 1924, trying prevent that the bully Biff Tannen (Marlon Brando) alter the past, destroying their future.

The Trilogy end with Marty trying rescue his friend from the Wild West of 1854, both from been killed by Mad Dog Tannen (also Marlon Brando) as the unexpected falling in love with the teacher Clara Clayton (Anne Shirley).

Famous for its groundbreaking special effects (the famous "tower clock lightning" scene to mention the most famous), still amazing today, one of its main points is the chemistry in the friendship of Marty and Dr. Brown (that echoed the real friendship between Dean and Karloff, developed in the set and that would last for their lifes). The balance between adventure, science fiction and comedy showed the talent of its director, Jack Arnold (Creature of the Black Lagoon, the Incredible Shrinking Man and The Mouse that Roared).

Trivia: the movie created a rise in the interest in the Tucker Torpedo, leading to its relaunch. The legend is that Dean kept the original Time Machine Tucker sedan
 
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(blame Richter10 for my posting this. He talk me into it)
Alien !958
Directed by Edward L Cahn
Produce by Robert Kent
Written by Jerome Bixby

Ray Corrigan as the Aliein
Ann Dorran as Lambert the Nostromo navigator
Dabb Greer as Ash Ship Science Officer/Android
Kim Spaulding as Kane the Executive officer
Paul Langton as Parker ship engineer
Marshall Thomson as Dallas Captain of the Nostromo
Robert Brice as Brett Engineering Crewman
Shirley Patterson as Ripley Warrent Officer on the Nostromo

And I thought that Someone would notice the Joke with this entry. It the Cast and Crew of 1957 It the Terror From Beyond Space.
 
Unforgiven (1976)
Dir: Clint Eastwood

While Eastwood's directorial powers would later mature, the stilted visual handling of most of the topics in the film, and its rapid descent into simplistic revenge drama let down the potential of this broken Western.

* * *

Perfect Blue (1970)
Dir: Akira Kurosawa
Colour, Japan

With Akira Kurosawa's career in tatters he retreated into this simple psychodrama noir. Filmed in colour, fast, and cheaply it failed commercially leading in most biographer's minds to Kurosawa's attempted suicide. Feminists have linked the failure of the film to its strong focus on female roles, and the potentially unsettling exposure of the heroine as Kurosawa's anima. In this interpretation, audiences were uncomfortable with identifying with the director's feminine self-expression, and terrorisation by the audience's image of the director.
 
I Tip my hat to the awesomeness of your Concept! Sheckley As a writer might Darken the Script a Bit, but in a very Funny Way. I had to laugh when I Read your Casting of Karloff... Why Not... (lugosi would hate the Movie).

Pitting dean and Brando against Each Other is a stroke of Genius. It ensures the Status of the Movie As a Classic in critics' Top lists (something the OTL Version deserves IMO).

Zemeckis Hills made me smile... You brightened up my Day, now I can drive to work.

BTW, do you imply butterflying Dean's early Death? You should Write an alternate filmography for him.

I can't due the casting that I wantd to use... but there is here the Alternate ATL version of the trilogy ;)

- The Back to the Future Trilogy (1954, 1956, 1957)
Director: Jack Arnold
Producer: George Pal

Back to the Future (1954)
Back to the Future 2: Zigzag (1956)
Back to the Future 3: Journey to the West (1957)


Script by Cyril M. Kornbluth and Robert Sheckley
Special Consultant: Robert A. Heinlein
Soundtrack: Henry Mancini

Marty McFly: James Dean
Dr. Emmett “Doc” Brown: Boris Karloff
Jennifer Parker: Lee Meriweather
George McFly: Richard Anderson
Lorraine Baines: Anne Francis
Biff Tannen: Marlon Brando
Clara Clayton: Anne Shirley
Principal Strickland: Edward G. Robinson
The Time Machine: 1948 Tucker Torpedo Sedan

One of the great surprises sucesses of 50's was the "Back to the Future" science fiction trilogy of movies, directed by Jack Arnold, whose theme tune by Henry Mancini is now iconic.

The first movie tells how the Zemeckis Hills teenager Marty McFly (James Dean) travels back in time with a machine build in a 1948 Tucker Sedan (of all cars!) by his friend, Dr. Emmett Brown (Boris Karloff) to 1924, where he accidently prevent his parents (Anne Francis and Richard Anderson) to meet eachother. And now with the help of the 1924's Dr. Brown, he had to make they to fall in love with eaac otheror he would disappear
This movie was a movie box hit, due both the hilarious use of fish-out-of-water reactions of Dean's character (both to the difference between 1924's extravaganza and 1954's Wild world, as demonstrated when Dean's character plays 1950's rock music at his parents' ball) as due the surprising comedic timing of the main leads (Karloff astonishes as the wild, clumsy but kind-hearted mad scientist Dr. Emmett Brown, a role that revitalized his career and showed his range as an actor for a bigger audience).

In the second movie, the young man and the scientist zigzag between 1984 (a hilarious vision of how that year would be!) and 1924, trying prevent that the bully Biff Tannen (Marlon Brando) alter the past, destroying their future.

The Trilogy end with Marty trying rescue his friend from the Wild West of 1854, both from been killed by Mad Dog Tannen (also Marlon Brando) as the unexpected falling in love with the teacher Clara Clayton (Anne Shirley).

Famous for its groundbreaking special effects (the famous "tower clock lightning" scene to mention the most famous), still amazing today, one of its main points is the chemistry in the friendship of Marty and Dr. Brown (that echoed the real friendship between Dean and Karloff, developed in the set and that would last for their lifes). The balance between adventure, science fiction and comedy showed the talent of its director, Jack Arnold (Creature of the Black Lagoon, the Incredible Shrinking Man and The Mouse that Roared).

Trivia: the movie created a rise in the interest in the Tucker Torpedo, leading to its relaunch. The legend is that Dean kept the original Time Machine Tucker sedan
 
I Tip my hat to the awesomeness of your Concept! Sheckley As a writer might Darken the Script a Bit, but in a very Funny Way. I had to laugh when I Read your Casting of Karloff... Why Not... (lugosi would hate the Movie).

Pitting dean and Brando against Each Other is a stroke of Genius. It ensures the Status of the Movie As a Classic in critics' Top lists (something the OTL Version deserves IMO).

Zemeckis Hills made me smile... You brightened up my Day, now I can drive to work.

BTW, do you imply butterflying Dean's early Death? You should Write an alternate filmography for him.

Boris Karloff was Alway underrated as a actor. Considering that He did the Ganster in Aresnic and Old Lace on Broadway, He could do Comedy. In fact the only reason he was not in the movie version was he was still doing the role on Broadway and could not get away to do the movie.

I can't find it but there was a very good Jame Dean live Timeline a number of years ago. It pointed out that several of the Roles that Dean was considering doing where done by Paul Newman. So If Dean Live he have taken some roles from Newman.
 
Abbott and Costello in: Serpents in the Skies! (1948)

Famed explorer of the Amazon basin Felix Findmore (Lou Costello) is returning by dirigible to New York to marry the love of his life. However, before he takes off from Rio, a disgraced fake explorer who blames Mitchell for exposing him smuggles a package of deadly snakes into the hold of the aircraft. Thankfully, Findmore is not alone - his trusty bagman Carl Carrymore (Bud Abbott) is at his side, as are a host of wealthy tourists wishing to ride home with the famous Findmore. As the luxury airship takes to the skies, Findmore and Carrymore soon find they have more than a storm to contend with, in the shape of deadly fangs!

A hilarious madcap comedy with some of the most iconic slapstick setpieces of the 1940s, including Abbott's notorious 'snake juggling' routine. The final scene, in which the delapidated airship docks on the Statue of Liberty, is much-spoofed even today.
 
Abbott and Costello in: Serpents in the Skies! (1948)

Famed explorer of the Amazon basin Felix Findmore (Lou Costello) is returning by dirigible to New York to marry the love of his life. However, before he takes off from Rio, a disgraced fake explorer who blames Mitchell for exposing him smuggles a package of deadly snakes into the hold of the aircraft. Thankfully, Findmore is not alone - his trusty bagman Carl Carrymore (Bud Abbott) is at his side, as are a host of wealthy tourists wishing to ride home with the famous Findmore. As the luxury airship takes to the skies, Findmore and Carrymore soon find they have more than a storm to contend with, in the shape of deadly fangs!

A hilarious madcap comedy with some of the most iconic slapstick setpieces of the 1940s, including Abbott's notorious 'snake juggling' routine. The final scene, in which the delapidated airship docks on the Statue of Liberty, is much-spoofed even today.

The Alt-version of "Snakes in a Plane" as a Abbott and Costello comedy?!? :eek: This is one that really improves the original! :D

To quote TVTropes: it is full of win!
 
I Tip my hat to the awesomeness of your Concept! Sheckley As a writer might Darken the Script a Bit, but in a very Funny Way. I had to laugh when I Read your Casting of Karloff... Why Not... (lugosi would hate the Movie).

Thank you - actually it was unclepatrick that suggest Kornbluth and Sheckley as scriptwriters (and checking on Sheckley I went for it) and Karloff as Dr. Brown (my original pick was Edward G. Robinson, due his comical acting in "Larceny, Inc." (1947) - in the final version, he became Principal Strickland :rolleyes:).
Karloff have a lot of range (check OTL "Targets"!) but most people think of him as a horror movie actor - so the role as Dr. Brown showed an unknown side of his talent for the movie goers, un-pigeonholing him and revitalizing his career in ATL.

Pitting dean and Brando against Each Other is a stroke of Genius. It ensures the Status of the Movie As a Classic in critics' Top lists (something the OTL Version deserves IMO).

I choose Dean because it would be interesting that he - OTL known for his dramatic roles - have his major breakthrough in ATL in a scifi-comedy adventure. Brando as Biff Tannen was for the lulz. :D

And OTL BTTF trilogy is a classic, no movie critic will convince me that it is not. ;)

Zemeckis Hills made me smile... You brightened up my Day, now I can drive to work.

you are welcome - I'm glad that the in-joke was appreciated.

BTW, do you imply butterflying Dean's early Death? You should Write an alternate filmography for him.

In this ATL, I think so. For more films with him, it will depend if he would fit the movies that I intend premade...
 
Brando as Biff Tannen was for the lulz. :D

And OTL BTTF trilogy is a classic, no movie critic will convince me that it is Not.

In this ATL, I think so. For more films with him, it will depend if he would fit the movies that I intend premade...

I think that Brando would actually work Quite well, Especially opposite Dean.
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Agreed on the status As a Classic.
...
Looking forward to more to come.

And here's my Next One:

Lola rennt ! Run!Lola!Run!
Deutsches Reich 1931

Directed by Georg Wilhelm Pabst based on a Script by Alfred Döblin.

The Young Barmaid Lola (Marlene Dietrich) has only 20 minutes to get her Hands on 1000 Reichsmark for her boyfriend Manfred (Heinz Rühmann) a wannabe Gangster Who owes this Sum to Crime Boss Lubolski (Emil Jannings), but accidentially lost it to a homeless Veteran (Hans Albers).

The Story is told in Three different versions, all of them involving frantic Running and slapstick As well As earnest Dialoge ranging from Social criticism to Philosophy. only the third chain of events leads to a happy end.

Stylistically, the Movie is a very Special for several reasons. While actually a talkie, The Action scenes are filmed As a Silent Movie, underlaid with a Soundtrack of wildest Jazz Music.
Partially colorized, the Film Highlights Key Elements by depicting them in Flashy colours, sich As Lola's Blue [!] Hair or Lubolski's Yellow Car.

The Film cemented dietrich's Role As the "wild Young Woman" of German Movies, shortly After "der blaue Engel". For Rühmann, it meant a contrast to his Breakthrough in the Musical Comedy "die drei von der Tankstelle" and led to a career which from early on Relied on roles blending Comedy and tragedy.

Today viewed As a masterpiece, the Film was a moderate success and was forbidden As "entartet" by the Nazis. However, it is still famous for having introduced the phrases "der Ball ist rund" (the Ball is Round) and "das Spiel dauert 90 minuten" (the Match Takes 90 minutes) into the German Language.
 
Star Wars

1939

The marketing literature declares;

In Glorious Technicolor!

See space as it has never been seen before.


Opening credits roll with the following.

The galaxy has fallen under the rule of the evil Emperor Ming 'The Merciless'.

The only world that remains defiant is the Earth. Determined to extinguish the fires of freedom forever he has a moon converted into a space battle ship that has to power to blow up planets.

The peoples of the Earth now face the choice between surrender or destruction.

In desperation the governments of the Earth look for a saviour....


Larry Buster Crabbe - Flash Gordon

Conrad Veidt - Ming The Merciless

Bela Lugosi - Doctor Zarkoff

David Niven - Prince Barin

Olivia De Haviland - Dale Arden

Merle Oberon - Princess Aura

The climax of the movie is an attack by Zarkoff designed rocket fighters from Earth on the Death Moon. Flash Gordon is the pilot who drops the star bomb (also designed by Zarkoff) that blows up the Death Moon.
 
Hot Fuzz

A 1940 film staring Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy

In there only film made in England, the duo hunt down Nazi spies in a small country town.
The film which was directed by Alfred Hitchcock, his only outing in to real comedy.

The film also had cameo's from some of Britians best loved comedy actors of the day including Will Hay, Rob Wilton and George Formby. Formby happened to be in the studio and was asked if he would like a part by Stan Laurel.

Main cast

Stan Laurel - Sgt Stan Angel
Oliver Hardy - PC Oliver Butterman
James Finlayson - Insp Frank Butterman
Simon Skinner - Basil Rathbone

It was the biggest grossing British film of 1940 and 3rd biggest grossing of all British films of the 1940's.
 
Prometheus

1931

Directed by Fritz Lang

Starring Peter Lorre, Anton Walbrook (as Wohlbruck) as the Earth travellers and Hans Albers as Prometheus.

Obsessed Greek classics professor Peter Lorre finds an ancient Greek tablet that talks about beings who flew in ships from Mars to Earth. He persuades a financier with a terminal illness that maybe 'the gods' are still there and can save his life if only they can get there. The financier agrees to pay the vast sums needed for the development of a rocket ship.

Peter Lorre then meets rocket scientist Anton Walbrook who has designs on how to build space craft but never got the funding.

Soon a rocket ship is built and they fly to Mars along with the sick financier and his daughter.

When they arrive they find a desert planet with ancient ruins. Filled with despair they suddenly stumble on an old Greek style temple that has some form of illumination inside.

There they find one of the gods sleeping in a tomb of glass and they wake him up. The god is tall and blond and introduces himself in perfect German as Prometheus. He tells them that the gods were destroyed by their own advanced weapons and he warns mankind about the danger of armaments. Unfortunately he refuses to help the sick financier who gets revenge by turning the power plant to overload level and blows up the temple killing himself and Prometheus.

The movie is banned when the Nazis come to power.
 
Field of Dreams - before the book

I know very little of actors/actresses, focusing instead on the alternate universes created by movies. However, if you need one with actors, how about...

1949: Gary Cooper had played Lou Gehrig, now he plays a understated yet at times intense farmer who, after the loss of his father in WW2, turns to idolizing, ironically, Lou Gehrig.* His considering of what might have been - including whether Gehrig might have broken Babe Ruth's hallowed mark, made more special by Ruth's recent death - is really his way of trying to escape the loss of his father, and the fact that he survived the war while his dad, an officer involved in the Normandy invasion, did not.

he eventually is thought to be crazy when he builds a ballpark in the middle of his cornfield, then goes back to find other ballplayers who are looking for one moment int he sun. One very poignant moment is when Jackie Robinson plays a very well respected early black star, John henry "Pop" Lloyd. Old time ballplayers, as well as current ones like Ted Williams, were asked to help, and they noted how Robinson had some of them had actually enjoyed playing with the old-time Negro League greats. While Lloyd only gets a cameo shot of a few seconds, Williams later notes in his 1966 Hall of Fame induction speech that, "These ballplayers were good enough for Cooperstown, in fact, they were even good enough to play in that ultimate dream team in Field of Dreams."

In the end, Not only Gehrig but all these players come out of that cornfield, Cooper's character does not sell the farm but has it dedicated as a special shrine, and even his father comes out of that cornfield, telling him it was just his time to go and that is a decision for a Higher Authority; in wasn't his fault that he survived, instead it was his duty to carry on his father's dreams, including the family farm. The movie ends with father and son having a game of catch.

*=It's actually possible Shoeless Joe could be used; quite a few people considered him innocent even in 1949. But, with quite a few people still living from the 1919 scandal and such, and with his stature being more controversial because of it, they decided Gehrig would be better, and a neat bit of irony since Cooper played Gehrig.
 
Galaxy Quest 1973

Galaxy Quest
Directed by Arthur Hiller
Written by Robert Sheckle y

Staring
William Shatner as James Nesmith/Comander Peter Taggart
Nichelle Nichols as Gwen Demarco/Lt Tamwy Madison
Leonard Nimoy as ALexander Dane/Dr Lazarus
James Doohan as Fred Kwan/Tech Sargent Chen
Walter Koening as Tommy Webster/Lt Laredo
Harrison Ford as Guy Freeman/ Redshirt Crewman
Richard Widmark as General Roth'har Sarris

Director Hiller spend the night in a Hotel that one of the early Star Trek convention was happening in and thought that the Fan thought the show was real. He thought that that was a great idea for a movie in which the actors of a 60's tv show where kidnapped by Alien to defend a race from evil. He got a group of Former Star Trek actors and many former crew members behind the scene to created this film.
The fans love it. Gene Roddenbury Hated it. The film was a huge Hit.
Paramount would authorize the Star Trek Movie Planet of the Titans in part due to reports that Hiller was thinking of a Sequal. And than they decided that since they had the sets and Custumes that they would do the TV series Star Trek Phase 2 in 1976. The series ran for 5 years.
 
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