Instead of reviving an old thread (necromancy), which is frowned on on this board, try starting a new thread with a link to the old one.A Napoleonic win TL I am planning could contain this. (IITL, slavery lasts WAY past 1860s but I am not sure if lasts till 2013)
Late PODs to make this possible will follow two themes, Napoleonic hegemony and/or UK abolitionists fail. This is because in my opinion, internationally chattel slavery was ended in OTL by a combination of the Pax Britannia and the fact that the UK was a decisively anti-slavery power at the time. (anti-slavery clause was part of the Congress of Vienna). KO one of those two and the international community may remain largely pro-slavery until the 1900s (or later).
Napoleonic victory PODs * = my favorite
*1805 - Trafalgar win France -
1800 - Nile win France (+ dead nelson) - achieves above but earlier
ASB but SO FUN
1815 - Nap resurgent post waterloo!
1812 - Nap takes RUSSIA!
Why a Nap victory? Napoleonic France was VERY pro-slavery, he actually brought it back post French Revolution (also see Haiti). Dominant Nap France means slavery reigns supreme in Europe till at least Nap's death, probably later. Additionally, Nap victory means USA takes Canada and probably KOs Mexico MUCH earlier. The expansionist arms race between free and slave states continues but IMHO without the Brits and with slaveholding France as the dominant power the South is able to hold the abolitionists at bay politically. (additionally, with France as the dominant power, Democrats are MUCH more powerful politically as the Whigs are discredited and the GOP never forms)
In this timeline ironically the ideals of the Enlightenment would lead to radically pro-slavery governments on both sides of the Atlantic by the 1820s [with no major anti-slavery power]. Populist anti-monarchism and anti-aristocracy in the early 1800s quickly became aligned with white supremacy and slavery (Napoleon in France, Democratic Party in USA), while monarchistic pro-aristocracy movements went the other way (Whigs in UK and USA (who eventually became GOP)). It wasn't a PERFECT lineup but generally speaking those were the political alliances of the day. (this was NOT the case in the late 1700s, see Revolutionary France, Thomas Jefferson, and Patrick Henry).
While we may have longer (and perhaps non-ending) chattel slavery we have much FASTER transition away from monarchy and aristocracy (due to the triple threat of strong USA, UK losing Nap war, and the ideals [if not the policies] of the French Rev spreading faster). If slavery persists and Nap and his successors keeps a tight grip politically this is easily a distopic TL, but if slavery ultimately loses (which it still could, ie SUPER-Liberal counter-revolution following Naps death and/or abolitionists eventually win the USA) this could end up being a much better world [due to the additional factor of the rapid fall of monarchy]. It is one of those fun, anything goes TLs.
Now, a simpler and IMHO LESS fun way of achieving this (and also later POD) is to have the UK abolitionists KOed from the start.
PODs include
* John Newton or William Wilberforce death
* Anti-slavery movement dies in Parliament in either early 1800s or 1830s
This is less fun IMHO because it is more strait up. Both UK and France are pro-slavery powers, no complex interplay between interesting political currents.
Anyway, just my two cents and I hope I revived this thread.
Welcome to the board, by the way. Always glad to see a new poster!