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Exactly what it says on the tin. With a PoD any time after 1815, create a scenario where Russians immigrate to the US in large numbers, comparable to Italians and Germans.
Do East European/Russian Jews count?
Most immigrant groups resulted from severe economic disruption and/or population surges. I dont know if you can recreate something like the Irish famine in the Russian empire in the 19th Century. It is a bit ASB to have some Asiatic group invade & occupy, displacing millions of Russians westwards. Equally ASB for a resurgent Polish revolt/conquest?
Do East European/Russian Jews count?
Most immigrant groups resulted from severe economic disruption and/or population surges. I dont know if you can recreate something like the Irish famine in the Russian empire in the 19th Century. It is a bit ASB to have some Asiatic group invade & occupy, displacing millions of Russians westwards. Equally ASB for a resurgent Polish revolt/conquest?
I am wondering where the Russians would live though. West Coast? East?
You're wrong there, the Russian empire was always mindful of the fact that they were under-populated and made immigration difficult unless you were undesirables like Jews. The vast majority of poles and Ukrainians who emigrated to America and Canada before ww1 were from Austria Hungary (and Germany in the case of poles).If you lump together emigres from the Russian Empire (Ukrainians, Poles, Jews, Ruthenians, Belorussians, Russians), then the historic emigration numbers aren't actually that far off from the Germans and Italians.
Exactly what it says on the tin. With a PoD any time after 1815, create a scenario where Russians immigrate to the US in large numbers, comparable to Italians and Germans.
If they get big enough they might affect some settlement patterns on their own, though. I can imagine the Dakotas could be Russian-influenced in a similar way to how Minnesota and Wisconsin are Scandinavian-influenced...
Yeah. . . no. The scandinavian influence in Minnesota is totally blown out of proportion. Sure, it has a higher proportion of the population claiming Norse ancestry than most other places in the United States but half the state claims German ancestry (pretty much the same story across the Midwest) and southern Minnesota contains some of the most German places I've ever been to outside of Germany. Some areas celebrate German festivals, like Oktoberfest, but I've never heard of anything resembling a scandinavian festival. Hell, my school still teaches German and I have yet to find any places in Minnesota that contain a norse language as part of their curriculum. If it wasn't for the whole anti-German backlash during WW1, both Minnesota and Wisconsin would likely be speaking German today.
"At the turn of the century, the data on American ethnic groups provided by the Bureau of the Census and other federal agencies grew in volume and became considerably more refined. Beginning in 1899, immigration officials went beyond the crude compilations of figures by country of origin and began to distunguish newcomers by 'race or people,' allowing the student of immigration to separate Armenians from Turks, and to distinguish the many peoples from the Russian and Austro-Hungarian Empires. Thus it can be determined that a mere 2 percent of the more than six hundred thousand immigrants from Russia who arrived in the years 1899-1904 were actually ethnic Russians; 42 percent of them were Jews, 27 percent Finns, and 10 percent Lithuanians..." http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0814734790&id=cKDHSic4-P4C&pg=RA1-PA91&lpg=RA1-PA91&ots=9R0s1HVgg1&sig=mdU6YAOS8Byy8yJRr0Ag
My money is on a earlier Russian Revolution or Civil War. I can't imagine what else would cause a mass migration.