AHC: Russia Seizes All of Historical Armenia from the Ottomans

I wonder if Russia would make noises about seizing Pontus. That would be the next logical step minus of course the historical obsession with Istanbul
 
I wonder if Russia would make noises about seizing Pontus. That would be the next logical step minus of course the historical obsession with Istanbul

Armenia would love to have a bigger coastline so maybe some officials could lobby the tsar for that.

But that's going to make Britain and the other European powers worried..
 
Is there potential for a combined Greek (Pontus), Armenian and Assyrian state?

Surrounded by Kurds, Turks, Arabs, Persians and Azerbajainies would be a tough row to hoe divided. Perhaps together they might survive.

I wonder how they'd get along as I'm not sure there is any actual biologican links between these people (and Georgians) other than being Orthodox.
 
Is there potential for a combined Greek (Pontus), Armenian and Assyrian state?

Surrounded by Kurds, Turks, Arabs, Persians and Azerbajainies would be a tough row to hoe divided. Perhaps together they might survive.

I wonder how they'd get along as I'm not sure there is any actual biologican links between these people (and Georgians) other than being Orthodox.


Neither Armenians nor Assyrians are Orthodox......
 

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I think there'd be some kind of Population Exchange clause in the peacedeal, since Russia is not really interested in more Muslims inside their borders, and the Ottoman government did not really trust theor christian minorities. So I could see both government signing a population transfer clause where the Russians expel most Muslims from the newly conquered territory and the Ottomans expel Anatolian christians, who are welcomed by the Russians.

Ethnic cleansing is ugly, but they'd probably do it.
 
Is there potential for a combined Greek (Pontus), Armenian and Assyrian state?

Surrounded by Kurds, Turks, Arabs, Persians and Azerbajainies would be a tough row to hoe divided. Perhaps together they might survive.

I wonder how they'd get along as I'm not sure there is any actual biologican links between these people (and Georgians) other than being Orthodox.

I'd suggest a predominately Armenian state, with fellow Christians accepted, would be more viable than trying to juggle the three peoples equally.

If either Empress did just a little better in the late eighteenth century, I'd think they could get some Armenia territory. One year of campaigning was harder for the Russians by an unusually droughty summer, and things might indeed have gone differently otherwise.

As snerfuplz says, the Russians would do better with the chorus 'Trebizond/Not Constantinople.' That's probably the unlikeliest part.
 

I think there'd be some kind of Population Exchange clause in the peacedeal, since Russia is not really interested in more Muslims inside their borders, and the Ottoman government did not really trust theor christian minorities. So I could see both government signing a population transfer clause where the Russians expel most Muslims from the newly conquered territory and the Ottomans expel Anatolian christians, who are welcomed by the Russians.

Ethnic cleansing is ugly, but they'd probably do it.

Hard to imagine the demographic effects since I can't find any sources on their populations.

I'd suggest a predominately Armenian state, with fellow Christians accepted, would be more viable than trying to juggle the three peoples equally.

If either Empress did just a little better in the late eighteenth century, I'd think they could get some Armenia territory. One year of campaigning was harder for the Russians by an unusually droughty summer, and things might indeed have gone differently otherwise.

As snerfuplz says, the Russians would do better with the chorus 'Trebizond/Not Constantinople.' That's probably the unlikeliest part.

Even throughout time till the present the minorities will be content right?
 
I think there'd be some kind of Population Exchange clause in the peacedeal, since Russia is not really interested in more Muslims inside their borders, and the Ottoman government did not really trust theor christian minorities. So I could see both government signing a population transfer clause where the Russians expel most Muslims from the newly conquered territory and the Ottomans expel Anatolian christians, who are welcomed by the Russians.

Ethnic cleansing is ugly, but they'd probably do it.

Would the Kurds resist because they would be kicked out of their own homeland....
 
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