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"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Senator Catiline the Wise?"

"I thought not. It’s not a story the Optimates would tell you."
 
Disclaimer: this is not an attempt to troll or propose ASB stuff.

This part of a recent post from @Dante tiggered the Galactic Empire's fanboy that is inside me, unleashing parallelisms between Octavian and Palpatine. Of course, there are also a lot of differences not only between the two, but also between their "contexts". And here comes the challenge (If you dare to accept it.): produce an ATL in which the Principate follows roughly the same path of Palpatine's Empire and many historical figures of the time are "fixed" to look like characters from the Saga.

You don't have to 100% respect the canon: TTL's Luke being son of TTL's Vader (Which, I suppose, is going to be an alt-Agrippa.) and anything like the Death Star existing (Unless you have an idea about how to destroy an entire city with only one weapon around 0 BC/AC.).
Also, if someone who's expert in Latin could find a translation for 'Luke Skywalker' it'd be fantastic.

There even is an Old Republic ! And a Senate. Augustus: 'I´m the Senate !'
 
Some more thoughts:

Palpatine = Caesar
Core World-based "reformers" and populists = Populares
Anakin/Vader = Marcus Antonius
Count Dooku = Pompeius Magnus
Megacorps, wealthy CIS plutocrats = Optimates
CIS "foot-folk" and Outer Rim generally = Gaul, "the East", other peripheral regions
Rebel Alliance = alt-Liberatores ("Restore the republic!")

To apply this to Rome, I think that we're looking at a situation where Cleopatra is the "Padme". She obviously never has a relationship with Caesar here, but has twin children with Marcus Antonius instead.

Suppose Caesar lives longer here, never has a relationship and children with Cleopatra, and plans to kill would-be opponents more ruthlessly. This causes a bunch of would-be Liberatores to flee Rome. Among them is Caesar's erstwhile close ally, Brutus (the Obi-Wan of this tale). Caesar intends to hunt them down on the way to carry out his Parthian campaign, but this causes the arthians to provide safe haven for these exiles.

Caesar's Parthian campaign is militarily successful, but gains little profits and costs a lot. Holding on to the conquered lands proves impossible. Marcus Antonius is stationed in Egypt to guard the border, and marries Cleopatra. This has Caesar's blessing, because that step lets the Egyptians accept Marcus Antonius. They have twin children, Lucius Antonius Caelambulus and Cleopatra Antonia.

In Rome, Caesar's rule becomes ever more chafing, and he himself becomes ever more paranoid. After several years, the Liberatores have become a viable political movement opposing Caesar's autocracy. Unbeknownst to Caesar and Marcus Antonius, Cleopatra has become disgusted with her husband and his mighty patron. Secretly contacting the Liberatores, she arranges to be "abducted and killed", along with her children. In reality, they are spirited away into Persian exile.

Years later, Caesar attempts a second conquest of Parthia, but is killed in battle-- as is Marcus Antonius. Cleopatra has been dead for years by then, having fallen ill in her exile. After this, the Liberatores (backed by Persia) begin a campaign to reclaim Rome and restore the Republic.

It is a fact that Cleopatra's twin children are involved in this matter. Later romances will claim that their father, upon recognsising his son among the enemy, killed Caesar himself out of love for his son. This is almost certainly a latter-day invention.

(The Roman Republic would indeed be restored, although various neo-Caesarist states continued to exist. At times, they nearly eclipsed the Republic. Thirty years later, Iapetus Felleus, ruler of the last and greatest of these warlord states, would mary the daughter of Cleopatra Antonia and the Republic's esteemed general Gaius Hadrianus Solo. This would bring about a long-lasting alliance between the two states.)
Egypt Naboo, Rome Coruscant, Germania Endor, Gaul Kashyyk, Greece Alderaan. Athens had been badly sacked by the Romans, so its Alderaan. What might Tatooine be ?
 
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Disclaimer: this is not an attempt to troll or propose ASB stuff.

This part of a recent post from @Dante tiggered the Galactic Empire's fanboy that is inside me, unleashing parallelisms between Octavian and Palpatine. Of course, there are also a lot of differences not only between the two, but also between their "contexts". And here comes the challenge (If you dare to accept it.): produce an ATL in which the Principate follows roughly the same path of Palpatine's Empire and many historical figures of the time are "fixed" to look like characters from the Saga.

You don't have to 100% respect the canon: TTL's Luke being son of TTL's Vader (Which, I suppose, is going to be an alt-Agrippa.) and anything like the Death Star existing (Unless you have an idea about how to destroy an entire city with only one weapon around 0 BC/AC.).
Also, if someone who's expert in Latin could find a translation for 'Luke Skywalker' it'd be fantastic.
Caesar persecuting the Celtic Druids Order 66.
 
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