AHC: Queen Victoria marrying an indigenous ruler

The pod would have to be long before Victoria was born. Having a later monarch (e.g the present queen) do so might be just about possible is a surviving empire timeline.
 
How early would the practive have to have started for it to be likely for queen Victoria (or her equivalent given the changes might occur because of this practice) to marry, say the ruler of a christianized african tribe?
Maybe a wider spread, pre colonial christianity would have allowed something like this to happen?
I mean for a large part of the colonial period religion still was a greater factor than race, so maybe if all those people in africa were already christian, marriages would've been more acceptable?
 
She'd have to marry someone White, or considered White. The most you could get away with could (note could) be someone not white, but considered "civilized" to proper Anglo-Saxon standards (I think that was how racial views worked for the era, but don't quote me on that since it might have died before that; the idea that people of color became acceptable when they acted like white people). Even then, I think it'd have to be someone very light skinned.

I wonder what this would do for Imperial unity.
 
She'd have to marry someone White, or considered White. The most you could get away with could (note could) be someone not white, but considered "civilized" to proper Anglo-Saxon standards (I think that was how racial views worked for the era, but don't quote me on that since it might have died before that; the idea that people of color became acceptable when they acted like white people). Even then, I think it'd have to be someone very light skinned.

I wonder what this would do for Imperial unity.

Japanese nobility/royalty would probably be the best bet, or a very anglicised Indian. I can't see anything else being even remotely possible.

Abyssinia, as a long shot?
 
Japanese nobility/royalty would probably be the best bet, or a very anglicised Indian. I can't see anything else being even remotely possible.

Abyssinia, as a long shot?

I would say the only possible Indian who would be considered even potentially up to scratch would be the Mughal Emperor, but even then that would probably require that the Empire survives in a more powerful form.
 
I can’t emphasise enough....

That in a world where it is a possible in the 1840s for the British monarch to marry a non white, non Christian, Queen Victoria or anyone like her would never have existed; heck Britain and the British Empire wouldn’t exist in any form similar to how we know it was.
The fundamental reason Queen Victoria existed in the first place was because of rules. Rules that needed to be obeyed. It wouldn’t hurt for people to familiarise themselves with the history of the monarchy, Britain, the traditions that were followed, social attitudes etc etc before they dream up absurd threads like this one and transport historical figures into situations which are so devolved from reality that they would need an entire different history of a nation and society.
I mean what will the next thread be - “Marry widowed Queen Victoria to her grandson Kaiser Wilhelm II.” That’s probably more likely than Victoria marrying a non white, non Christian, non royal!
Just by way of example, Victoria’s father was a lifelong bachelor, content to see out the rest of his days with his old fat mistress that he had been cohabiting with for decades, when there was the succession crisis after the death of Princess Charlotte and the old lecherous sons of George III rushed to marry. They all had something in common, they married; -
· German
· Lutheran
· Princesses
This remained the norm for British male (and almost all female) royals until after the first World War with only exception when Victoria’s second son married the daughter of Tsar Alexander II.
Those were the rules.
Victoria was raised and remained a deeply committed Anglican all her life, she took her role as Head of the Church seriously, she respected other religions to a point but she had a fundamentalist belief that her way was the only true way.
The Catholic Emancipation Act was only passed 8 years before Victoria succeeded to the throne but some of you think she was going to marry a non Anglican/Lutheran?
To really stress how fundamental this point was, it was inconceivable to Victoria or her generation that she or anyone of her mindset would marry non Christian.
The majority of British people in that era looked down on non whites, anti Catholicism and anti Semitism were still rife, British people felt superior to non whites and that was their justification for killing and subjugating millions of indigenous people around the world, the idea of their monarch marry anyone non white is inconceivable.
It would be a bit like Hitler marrying the daughter of a Jewish shopkeeper murdered in Auschwitz.
 
Dimension 398 comes close-ish to this.


Sure, there are some extreme circumstances, and it is about a generation before, but still close.
 
My point was that by indigenous, Strategos meant someone coming from the British Empire.

The question is oddly worded. After all Albert was indigenous to Germany, just as a Majaraha was indigenous to India, or a Zulu indigenous to Africa.
 
Tewodros II of Ethiopia?

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Handsome fellow.
 
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