AHC: Queen of Great Brittain, Empress of Germany

The idea is weird, but hopefully not ASB. Find a PoD that makes Queen Victoria not only Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and Empress of India but alos (ruling) Empress of Germany, thus uniting Great Britain and Germany.
 
The Germans didn't allow women to inherit, so this is difficult.

My only thought is that Hanover not Prussia unites Germany after the Napoleonic war. EIther George IV or William V would have to be the first emporer and the laws of inheritence of the German empire where changed to allow Victoria to inherit (rather than her uncle in OTL).

I am also not sure that France would allow this as it would put 2 historically enemies in alliance on her borders.
 

Adler

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It is more likely to have Wilhelm II. becoming king of Great Britain, too. As his mother was the eldest child and the right of succession was changed, like a few days ago, allowing the eldest child to become queen or king, Edward VII. would have never ruled but Wilhelm II. as William V. He would have been "the German Kaiser Wilhelm II, king of Great Britain and Prussia and emperor of India".

Adler
 
I believe that three things had to happen:
- Victoria's uncles dying without any legitimate male issue (or one of them would have become King of Hanover)
- the House Brunswick dying out before Victoria becomes Queen of the UK (or the Duke of Brunswick would have become King of Hanover in her place).
- Hanover becoming the leading state in the Unification of Germany (that's simple: she was asked by a delegation from Frankfurt to become Empress of the Germans in 1849 and accepts).

BTW I doubt that Wilhelm II would exist in this TL.
 
Let's suppose that Victoria was miffed at 'losing' the Hanover throne and subsequently persuaded the UK goverment to change the succession rules, giving equal rights to women.

Assuming that death dates remain the same in this ATL, there would have been a Victoria II on the throne from 22 January to 5 August 1901. Kaiser Bill would then ascend to to throne, very probably as William V.

So there could have been -
1901 Victoria II
1901-1941 William V
1941-1951 Frederick I (Freidrich Wilhelm) (or 'William VI')
1951-1994 Louis I (Louis Ferdinand) (more likely 'William VII' or 'William VI')
1994- Mary III (Marie Cecile).

Another assumption is that by 1994 the rules of succesion for Germany would have been as in the UK, hence 'Mary III' would also be Empress Marie of Germany.
 
How come everyone is forgetting that Parliament and even the Reichstag would have a say in this union. I could see the British wouldn't want a Prussian ruler and may dissolve the union in favor of Edward.
 
Who and the what now? Hadn't heard of that before.
That did only happen in TTL. In oTL they asked the King of Prussia who did not like their proposition.
How come everyone is forgetting that Parliament and even the Reichstag would have a say in this union. I could see the British wouldn't want a Prussian ruler and may dissolve the union in favor of Edward.
You are assuming that this will be the same German Empire as the one of OTL, but it is not.
Let's suppose that Victoria was miffed at 'losing' the Hanover throne and subsequently persuaded the UK goverment to change the succession rules, giving equal rights to women.

Assuming that death dates remain the same in this ATL, there would have been a Victoria II on the throne from 22 January to 5 August 1901. Kaiser Bill would then ascend to to throne, very probably as William V.

So there could have been -
1901 Victoria II
1901-1941 William V
1941-1951 Frederick I (Freidrich Wilhelm) (or 'William VI')
1951-1994 Louis I (Louis Ferdinand) (more likely 'William VII' or 'William VI')
1994- Mary III (Marie Cecile).

Another assumption is that by 1994 the rules of succesion for Germany would have been as in the UK, hence 'Mary III' would also be Empress Marie of Germany.
And here you made the mistake assuming that two heirs would marry. If Victoria became heiress of the United Kingdom, the German Empire, Hanover and Brunswick she would have not been allowed to marry the heir to the throne of another German state.
 
And here you made the mistake assuming that two heirs would marry. If Victoria became heiress of the United Kingdom, the German Empire, Hanover and Brunswick she would have not been allowed to marry the heir to the throne of another German state.

Really?

You are assuming that this will be the same German Empire as the one of OTL, but it is not.

Thus one may say that the German States - and the UK - are not the same as those of OTL and thus might not have the same rules remaining on the statute books.

Different strokes for different timelines.
 

Yes. Take a look at the female monarchs in OTL. Most either did not marry or married a noble who had to chance to become a ruling monarch himself.

Thus one may say that the German States - and the UK - are not the same as those of OTL and thus might not have the same rules remaining on the statute books.
The ywill be similiar in TTl, but the German Empire will be different, because it will not be created by Bismarck and dominated by Prussia.
 
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