Why not Franklin Delano Roosevelt-Roosevelt? It's uncommon, but not impossible, for a husband and wife to change both of their names to the same double-barreled surname when they marry.
Roosevelt-Roosevelt just does not sound right.
Why not Franklin Delano Roosevelt-Roosevelt? It's uncommon, but not impossible, for a husband and wife to change both of their names to the same double-barreled surname when they marry.
First of all, I don't agree that getting Breckinridge elected in 1860 requires ASB's *if the election goes into the House.* Second, Breckinridge could have become president well before 1860--if President Buchanan had for example died of National Hotel Disease in 1857. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.history.what-if/Nt91RSlqBEw/blTX7nK3s0QJ
If Breckinridge became president in 1857 and died in 1858 (let's say he got the disease too--some people who got it died lingering deaths in 1858 or even 1859) President Pro Tempore of the Senate Benjamin Fitzpatrick (eleven letters!) becomes POTUS...
Not to mention that I have a hard time seeing California in 2012 voting Republican for President, even with Arnie as candidate.
Agreed on the "If Buchanan died". I'll have to check to see other Vice Presidents who were longer than 10 to see if any of them qualify.
I disagree with you on 1860. The Lincoln supporters in the house would vote for either Bell or Douglas (whoever came in third) rather than see Breckinridge as President. Breckinridge just can't get to 17 state delegations...
See http://faculty.virginia.edu/jajenkins/ES.pdf for a technical paper on the subject.
Roosevelt-Roosevelt just does not sound right.
Let's look at a Republican vs. Bell vs. Breckinridge (Douglas said he would not accept election by the House) contest in the House. The Breckinridge Democrats controlled eleven slave states plus Oregon and California. They were tied with the Bell supporters in Maryland, Kentucky, and North Carolina. If Breckinridge can get one Bell supporter each in these three states and three in Tennessee to support him, he wins. I don't think that's inconceivable. Southern supporters of Bell ("Americans" or "Oppositionists") might vote for Breckinridge because they might feel that otherwise a "Black Republican" (not necessarily Lincoln--in fact, the race is far more likely to go into the House if Lincoln is *not* the Republican candidate) might win or else there would be a prolonged deadlock in which case Breckiridge's running mate Lane would presumably become president anyway (since the Senate will choose him as vice-president). Besides, it's not like Breckinridge was a Rhett-Yancey type fire-eater, though he had their support; unlike Buchanan he had even backed Douglas against Lincoln in Illinois in 1858.
Now it is true that to avoid the possibility of a Breckinridge or Lane presidency, the Republicans might throw their support to Bell (who though a slaveholder had voted against the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the Lecompton Constitution). But I think some of the more radical ones, at least, might refuse to do so--the Chicago platform or bust! And even if they *did* support Bell en masse, some southerners who would otherwise have voted for Bell would recoil from voting for a candidate who owed his main support to Republicans." They might still *want* to vote for Bell, but they could foresee only too well how the Democrats would use their "treasonable collaboration with Black Republicans" at the next congressional election.
I do think it is unlikely, though, that the race would go into the House even if, say, Seward rather than Lincoln was the Republican candidate. With Breckinridge taking 4.5 percent of the vote in Indiana (thanks to Jesse Bright's hatred of Douglas) it would be hard for any Republican presidential candidate to lose the state in 1860, though Seward might not carry it by Lincoln's 8.7 point margin. http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/u/usa/pres/1860.txt And if the GOP presidential candidate wins Indiana, he can lose Oregon, California, Illinois, and the electoral votes Lincoln got in New Jersey, and still win in the Electoral College.
If Nick Galifiankis had won the NC Senate race in 1972 he might have been on a Democratic national ticket some day... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Galifianakis_(politician)
(He acknowledged that his name might be a bit hard for North Carolinians. He explained that it started with a gal and ended with a kiss. Anyway, Helms won 54-46. Maybe if the Democrats had nominated a presidential candidate more popular in NC than McGovern...)
And is there any way we could get a President Leverett Saltonstall? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverett_Saltonstall
This guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfe+585,_Senior
Has a son born in the US, who would therefore be eligible for the Presidency. We just have to make Mr Wolfe*schlegelstein*hausenberger*dorffvoraltern*waren*gewissenhaft*schaferswessen*schafewaren*wohlgepflege*und*sorgfaltigkeit*beschutzen*von*angreifen*durch*ihrraubgierigfeinde*welyche*voraltern*zwolftausend*jahres*vorandieerscheinen*wander*ersteer*dem*enschderraumschiff*gebrauchlicht*als*sein*ursprung*von*kraftgestart*sein*lange*fahrt*hinzwischen*sternartigraum*auf*der*suchenach*diestern*welche*gehabt*bewohnbar*planeten*kreise*drehen*sich*und*wohin*der*neurasse*von*verstandigmen*schlichkeit*konnte*fortplanzen*und*sicher*freuen*anlebens*langlich*freude*und*ruhe*mit*nicht*ein*furcht*vor*angreifen*von*anderer*intelligent*geschopfs*von*hinzwischensternartigraum, Junior President. Some how.
In Bring the Jubilee, Ward Moore makes a passing reference to a "Vallandigham administration". Don't know how likely it is though.
don't you mean especially?Not to mention that I have a hard time seeing California in 2012 voting Republican for President, even with Arnie as candidate.
I wanted to point out something to consider the closer we approach the present. My name on here was the family name before they passed through Ellis Island. you'll notice, it has the coveted 11 letters. My point being, even if Arnold's family immigrated here before his birth, the odds are good that he would have the last name "Shwartz" or something shorter and more American sounding.
Also, i would like to add a slightly underhanded entry. Bill Clinton never adopts his stepfathers name, making him President Blythe III