Your challenge is to have a worldwide communist revolution in a world where Nazi Germany and their allies won ww2. Bonus points if the revolution starts in either Germany, Italy, or Japan
AHC: post-Nazi Germany victory world communist revolution
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Alright, well than lets say nazi Germany stayed the same size as in 1941, and established puppet states all around Europe and controls Africa, with Italy controlling Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, and northern Kenya, Japan has puppet states all over Asia, as well as directly controlling the entire pacific, whiles the Americas are full of German and Japanese puppet states and colonies
If the ASBs have let the Axis do that well, then any World Communist Revolution is going to be taking the quick train to Dachau or making a long march through the jungles of Indochina.
Axis victory on that scale and in that way is ASB. World Communist Revolution is so reality-defyingly implausible that we'd have to invent a new term just to encapsulate how implausible it is. It's like Frisian cubed, or something.
Axis victory on that scale and in that way is ASB. World Communist Revolution is so reality-defyingly implausible that we'd have to invent a new term just to encapsulate how implausible it is. It's like Frisian cubed, or something.
So says the anti-comunist.
The only reason we havn't made it there was becouse the Soviet Union fucked the left over and the reformists were turned against revolution thanks to the actions of the Soviet Union.Why do you have such an low opinion of communism/socialism? I've read in the chamberlain thing and it seemed like you hated communism there (expecially the part when you stated comunism to be less moral than the capitalist west though that could just be you talking about the soviet Union in general) and when you stated back when I revealed I had gone red that I was wrong and would forever be wrong, then I though it was just becouse I was wrong in the "real world" but now I'm wondering if you meant it in an moral way too, expecially with your views as an libertarian, who are on priciple against managing the corporations and markets by the goverments.
Also if I'm wrong about my conclusions could you explain to me how I'm wrong and why and I'm sorry If I am wrong about my conclusions about your beliefs.
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The entire world breaking out in a united revolution against the man, without nationalism, or financial backing from the wealthy, or endless bickering is basically impossible. That's not the way movements work, hell, that's not the way people work. There is absolutely zero chance of a communist revolution happening, as Tsar Gringo said, it's Frisian cubed.
I don't think a world could be that Axis dominated, but in such a situation, I think eventual liberalization could lead to various left leaning/nationalist revolutions across the globe that wouldn't be stomped out with an iron boot.
Your right, sorry guys about my kneejerk reactions.
It's just I've been under a lot of stress at home in the last month and 11 days and I'm not always able to keep my reactions under control.Edit: I'm still an communist and still think the march of history will happen though, just to make sure that you guys don't think I've stoped being an communist.
Actually I am no longer libertarian- deregulation is not smart. I'd rather force corporations to pay their workers decent and give them coverage, and then cut welfare. I trust Wall Street only slightly more than the government.
I oppose Communism on moral and political principle; any revolution that looks ahead rather than restoring ancient liberties ( Soviets and French Revolution vs. The War of American Independence) goes against my beliefs. Revolution abolishes order and leads to great sufferings, through purges and famines and war. I find Communist theory on history to be rather Messianic- I wouldn't be surprised to see that Marxist took the idea of the inevitable Revolution from Jewish concepts of the Messiah.
I am against utopian ideas. I am for private property. I have a love for tradition, which is savaged in the throes of revolutionary change. Communism offers a luring vision of the future, only to produce suffering and misery. It is telling that the most successful Communist parties adopted the ballet box over the barricade- reform produces results ( although I am no social democrat) whilst revolution has been proven again and again to produce death.
Pardon me for not wanting to hitch my civilization on an ideology that has been made obsolete by post-industrialism, whose results are far from stellar.
Communist idealists fail to grasp that most systems, particularly democratic ones, have large sections of the population who have moral, ideological and material interests in the preservation of the status quo as opposed to a much smaller class of elites. These people end up being purged. As for the March of history- nothing is inevitable. Capitalism may in time fall- whether or not it is to socialism is heavily up to debate. I see distributism possibly doing well.
I oppose Communism on moral and political principle; any revolution that looks ahead rather than restoring ancient liberties ( Soviets and French Revolution vs. The War of American Independence) goes against my beliefs. Revolution abolishes order and leads to great sufferings, through purges and famines and war. I find Communist theory on history to be rather Messianic- I wouldn't be surprised to see that Marxist took the idea of the inevitable Revolution from Jewish concepts of the Messiah.
I am against utopian ideas. I am for private property. I have a love for tradition, which is savaged in the throes of revolutionary change. Communism offers a luring vision of the future, only to produce suffering and misery. It is telling that the most successful Communist parties adopted the ballet box over the barricade- reform produces results ( although I am no social democrat) whilst revolution has been proven again and again to produce death.
Pardon me for not wanting to hitch my civilization on an ideology that has been made obsolete by post-industrialism, whose results are far from stellar.
Communist idealists fail to grasp that most systems, particularly democratic ones, have large sections of the population who have moral, ideological and material interests in the preservation of the status quo as opposed to a much smaller class of elites. These people end up being purged. As for the March of history- nothing is inevitable. Capitalism may in time fall- whether or not it is to socialism is heavily up to debate. I see distributism possibly doing well.
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