AHC: Polish troops in Berlin

Difficult one. You challenge, should you accept it, is to have Polish landtroops troops in Berlin with the POD no earlier than 1900. Reaching Berlin is acceptable. Sending troops to an occupational zone after the fighting is already over is not acceptable. These troops must be under separate Polish command so Polish divisions within foreign armies don’t count.
 
What about the Polish troops who helped capture Berlin in 1945?

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Originally posted by The Red
What about the Polish troops who helped capture Berlin in 1945?
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Originally posted by Magnificate
These troops must be under separate Polish command so Polish divisions within foreign armies don’t count.
Polish 1st Infantry Division and other Polish units fought in Berlin as a part of Soviet armies. OTOH, Polish units had separate command structure (although controlled by Soviets and/or Polish communists) and they were NOT a part of the Red Army - officially they were just allies.

And now to the point. How about Germany does not surrender in 1918, but keeps fighting till the Allies reach Berlin? Among allied units there was also Polish Army commanded by General Józef Haller (so called "The Blue Army") organized in France in 1917-1918. IOTL that army was officially recognized by the Entente as allied and co-belligerent, even if only a few of its units actually took part in combat. With Germany still resisiting it is a pretty sure bet that Haller's army would have had to fight much longer, hopefully gaining some fame and prestige for Poland. Perhaps even reaching Berlin.
OTOH I'm rather sure Germany would have surrendered if the allies had crossed Rhine, but hey, who knows? And Polish Army entering Berlin from west - that's something new, isn't it?
 
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This was actually thought of as vaguely plausible during the Weimar years, when the Reichswehr numbered fewer menthan the Polish army. Of course the Poles could never have gone it alone, but how about an actual armed conflict over the French occupation ofthe Rhineland and/or Saar? Poland would be a natural ally for France in that situation. It is, ofcourse, hard to see any Berlin government being stupid enopugh to risk this war, but Germany has never lacked for stupid politicians.
 
If polish forces fighting along soviet army don't count being not independent enough, what about polish forces on the western front? If soviets do much worse fighting against Germans (lets say earlier implementation of Speer's war economy by Germany allows them to hold on the east for longer and not suffer such defeats as in OTL 1944), I can see western allied forces storming Berlin, spearheaded by 1st polish armored division for example.
 

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This was actually thought of as vaguely plausible during the Weimar years, when the Reichswehr numbered fewer menthan the Polish army. Of course the Poles could never have gone it alone, but how about an actual armed conflict over the French occupation ofthe Rhineland and/or Saar? Poland would be a natural ally for France in that situation. It is, ofcourse, hard to see any Berlin government being stupid enopugh to risk this war, but Germany has never lacked for stupid politicians.

Hitler DID risk a war over the Remilitarization of the Rhineland on March 7, 1936 . At this time Germany had at the time just begun rebuilding its army, Poland would have been more or less equal and France a lot stronger than Germany, and AFAIK the breach of the Locarno Treaty would indeed have been a legal act of war, both for France and, due to the Franco-Polish Warrant Agreement for Poland.

The reason why France didn't intervene, or at least do some more saber-rattling: They were afraid of the cost. Obviously, lack for stupid politicians wasn't an issue on either side of the Rhine.
 
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1980s, a computer error (some states that it couldn´t have been a mistake and that it was Reagan himself that did it, before being eliminated by a general´s plot) cause the launch of ICBMs from an isolated base.

The Red Army pushes into western europe, while that happen, the Polish armies leads the siege of west Berlin, eventually crush all resistance with an iron fist.

France leaves NATO in panic, makes a separate peace with the Warsawa Pact.

A few years later, a pro-us military faction launch a coup in France, France is wracked with social tensions following WW3 and a civil war starts, NATO and Warsawa pact forces soon intervenes. Polish forces smashes several US divisions and put the White and Red on the Eiffel Tower.
 
Would an independant I Polish Corps as part of the British command structure but officially part of an independent Polish Army count?
 
http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2009/07/drowned-baby-timeline.html

The PoD actually occurs when Hitler dies as a baby in 1889, but I think you could, without harm, move it forward and have him die as a teenager instead or just stay out of politics.

As a result, Rohm takes over as Dictator of Germany instead, invades Poland before the army is fully rebuilt, and gets roundly defeated. Poland conquers Berlin and annexes a third of Germany.
 
If you need to plausibly get rid of Hitler - he was a dispatch runner in WW1, quite a dangerous job. Just have a bullet or splinter impact a few centimeters away from OTL.
 
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