AHC: Pick a ship scrapped OTL as a Museum ship.
- Thread starter Curiousone
- Start date
I'll go for HMS Warspite or in view of her condition one of the other QE's if it would have been cheaper to do. After that USS Enterprise (CV-6) and HIJMS Nagato/Mutsu for some reason I've always had a soft spot for the ships.
I totally understand why people wish Britain had kept some of its battleships as museums but I think there's something to be said for scrapping the ship and giving the name to a new one. It gives the ship a new life in a way being a museum piece doesn't. Entirely personal opinion of course.
I totally understand why people wish Britain had kept some of its battleships as museums but I think there's something to be said for scrapping the ship and giving the name to a new one. It gives the ship a new life in a way being a museum piece doesn't. Entirely personal opinion of course.
Orville_third
Banned
I was hoping one of the other nuclear powered cruisers could be preserved- it would be cool to have the South Carolina (CGN-37) alongside the Yorktown at Patriot's Point (Hey, Patriot's Point did have the NS Savannah there before).
I'd also like to have kept some old boomers.
Once we get it back, we need to put the USS Pueblo in nice secure place.
I'd also like to have kept some old boomers.
Once we get it back, we need to put the USS Pueblo in nice secure place.
David S Poepoe
Banned
HMS Warspite
USS Oregon (so close)
HMS Implacable - originally commissioned into the French Navy in 1800 and captured by the British in 1805. Eventually scuttled 1949 under both British and French colors. Neither country could raise the funds to restore her service as a museum ship. She would have been the second oldest ship in the Royal Navy after HMS Victory if kept. Museum ship in Rochefort, France.
USS Baltimore (C-3) - Present both at Dewey's victory at Manila Bay, May 1st, 1898 and the attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7th, 1941.
USS Oregon (so close)
HMS Implacable - originally commissioned into the French Navy in 1800 and captured by the British in 1805. Eventually scuttled 1949 under both British and French colors. Neither country could raise the funds to restore her service as a museum ship. She would have been the second oldest ship in the Royal Navy after HMS Victory if kept. Museum ship in Rochefort, France.
USS Baltimore (C-3) - Present both at Dewey's victory at Manila Bay, May 1st, 1898 and the attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7th, 1941.
Last edited:
The HMS Achilles, both as an honour for her wartime service but as a suitable reminder that yes New Zealand did have a navy once.
saturnV
Banned
Hmm though its still in service I'm postive and would be dissapointed if the uss kole dosnt become a museum Maybe a walk through of how damage control unfolded . I read somewhere that none of the light escorts from ww2 were saved seems like this shouldn't be the case .anyways I'm sticking with the kole
David S Poepoe
Banned
You are talking about the USS Cole. There has (probably) never been a USS Kole. The ship has been returned to service and, for the most part, probably won't become a museum ship.
USN:
RN:
Germany/Turkey:
- Enterprise (CV-6)
- Hartford
- Oregon (the real kicker was that she had been preserved as a museum for about 20 or so years, but after Pearl Harbor, was offered back to the USN & ended up getting partially scrapped in a scheme that seemed to have more than a whiff of profiteering in it)
- Washington (BB-56)- having a battleship kill all to herself is a pretty rare & impressive accomplishment for a capital ship)
- Tautog (SS-199)- Pearl Harbor survivor & highest-scoring US sub of WW2 in terms of ships sunk
- Flasher (SS-249)- highest scoring sub in terms of tonnage
- Barb (SS-220) for her overall record- Eugene Fluckey earned the MoH & 4 Navy Crosses for his actions as her skipper
- Carondelet- ACW riverine ironclad that participated in many major engagements & greatly distinguished herself; sold & partially scrapped & the remaining hulk was abandoned & sank. In the early 1980s, a group of researchers found her location through studying old records, & went out to examine the site, only to find that she had been destroyed by a dredging operation literally half an hour before they got there.
- Oklahoma City (CLG-5) ILO Little Rock, as the last surviving American cruiser to have seen combat in WW2 & her extensive Vietnam service, which included being the first American warship to successfully engage a hostile surface target with a missile
RN:
- Warspite (though as others had said, she was in pretty bad shape by the end of WW2; if she was too far gone, then of all the other WW1 leftovers remaining, Renown & Queen Elizabeth were in the best shape, AIUI, as far as potential alternates go.
- Vanguard (because she was the last of the breed, best timing in terms of economics, & the idea of seeing Victory, Warrior, & Vanguard clustered close together at the Portsmouth dockyard makes for an appealing mental image
- Implacable
- Conqueror- for being the only nuclear sub to sink another vessel in anger
Germany/Turkey:
- Goeben/Yavuz- for being the last surviving battlecruiser, and her role in WW1. Even at the end of her career, she was in excellent shape, and the Turkish government spent about a decade trying to get someone to preserve her as a museum as they couldn't afford to do so themselves, but although they got some interest from groups in the US & West Germany, they all fell through, the Americans for lack of money & the Germans because of pressure & interference from certain elements in their domestic political scene.
Last edited:
There might be political problems with preserving a capability that a Govt let go. Imagine the uproar in April-June 1982 if the Ark was moored in the Thames?
If he did not buy the USSR, it is possible. But he could buy not - the good with him was not enough.
RamscoopRaider
Donor
Vanguard was in better shape, preserving her would be cheaper and more realistic compared to any other British BB
I thought she was sitting somewhere in the Smithsonian?
Yeah in the back of the gift shop, and reportably rather hard to find, the E is a very importent part of american tv history and it deserves a more prominant display.
Also in regards to fictional vehicles the original models from Thunderbirds and the other Gerry Anderson series, all of which appear to have been destroyed.
Pangur
Donor
Yeah, the is that right enough. Actually it is good that you clarified which Gov you were referring to.