AHC: Pick a ship scrapped OTL as a Museum ship.
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USS Long Beach (CGN-9)
She was the only ship of her class and was scrapped. Unique, as a nuclear-powered guided missile cruiser in the USN is quite rare. Her superstructure was also something else.
I thought we were looking at preserving ships, not office blocks...
Preserving nuclear powered ships is just too hazardous. It's unfortunate but you can't get around the long term dangers.
USS Long Beach? I can kind of see the novelty value of it being the only nuclear-powered cruiser but that blank box on the superstructure for the SCANFAR radar is kind of ugly.
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Dreadnought wouldn't have survived the Washington Treaty, IMO.
If any British battleship was in a position to be saved, it was Vanguard. For a ship with so little mileage on it to be sent to the shipbreakers only exposes the wrongheadedness of the "A-Bomb Uber Alles" mindset of the time regarding naval warfare. It would have taken little $$$ to save her as a museum ship.
HMS Invincible, preferably moored on the Thames as Illustrious did.
Agreed. But the RN's record for preserving museum ships is horrible.
Wasn't Iron Duke badly damaged in WWII? Also, I think she was a disarmed training ship by then?
Corrected! Bombed twice and beached in '39.Wasn't Iron Duke badly damaged in WWII? Also, I think she was a disarmed training ship by then?
For UK, HMS Warspite.
For Australia, where our record of preserving ships is truly woeful my list would include HMCS Protector, at one stage it was the South Aussie navy, also, in its time the most powerful warship in the South Pacific; the original HMAS Sydney for sinking the SMS Emden; then one of the carriers HMAS Sydney, Melbourne.
For Australia, where our record of preserving ships is truly woeful my list would include HMCS Protector, at one stage it was the South Aussie navy
, also, in its time the most powerful warship in the South Pacific; the original HMAS Sydney for sinking the SMS Emden; then one of the carriers HMAS Sydney, Melbourne.Civilian entry
All lauds and honors to the warships nominated, and they deserve every praise.
Still, I'll speak on behalf of HMS Queen Elizabeth, sister sovereign to Queen Mary; an original civilian born under gunfire and earning her stripes most quickly under fire. As her sister is enshrined in Long Beach, I would have good Elizabeth set up in Florida, something considered in OTL. Both Queens had been instrumental in carrying GIs to Europe, so a plea could be made that both sisters had earned their retirement in the US. Heck, could HMS Warspite be moored alongside? There's an image for you.
All lauds and honors to the warships nominated, and they deserve every praise.
Still, I'll speak on behalf of HMS Queen Elizabeth, sister sovereign to Queen Mary; an original civilian born under gunfire and earning her stripes most quickly under fire. As her sister is enshrined in Long Beach, I would have good Elizabeth set up in Florida, something considered in OTL. Both Queens had been instrumental in carrying GIs to Europe, so a plea could be made that both sisters had earned their retirement in the US. Heck, could HMS Warspite be moored alongside? There's an image for you.
For UK, HMS Warspite.
For Australia, where our record of preserving ships is truly woeful my list would include HMCS Protector, at one stage it was the South Aussie navy
ummm hmcs protector is a Canadian supply ship.
think you must mean hms protector.
RMS Olympic. She was one of the most revolutionary ocean liners of her day, and certainly the most famous. The fact that she just happened to be the older sister of the doomed Titanic was all the more reason to have saved her.
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I wanted to add either the sub chaser USS PC-815 or the patrol boat USS YP-422, each of which was briefly commanded during WW II (with astounding incompetence) by Lt. L. Ron Hubbard who, among other things, accidentally shelled Mexico, a U.S. ally. Alas, both boats were lost at sea in the Pacific theater long after Hubbard had been removed from command.
Warspite, or failing that the Vanguard, if the navy don't save Illustrious I'll be pissed. Maybe the previous Ark Royal as well, though she was getting a bit knackered by the time she was scrapped, also if she was still in being in 1982 it might have given Argentina second thoughts (even if she could not have been put back in working order before the war was over).
Also examples of the Type 42, and Type 22 and 23 Frigate (though the last two are still in service), we suck at keeping hold of our maritime history in this country. It almost seems as if we say, hey we got the Victory what else do we need?
In terms of civvie ships the Queen Elizabeth (1), Olympic if only as a memorial to her lost sisters, and we really need to see about getting the QE2 back before it ends up on the bottom of Dubai harbour (or a chinese scrapyard)
Further afield, obviously the CV-6 Enterprise, one of the WWII Japanese battleships, and while I know they only just left service I hope Russia saves one of the Typhoon class subs, they're just so cool. CV-65 would be nice but the reactor problem was never solvable.
Oh and in a slightly off topic example, the original model of the Enterprise (NCC-1701) deserves better than sitting in the back of a museum gift shop.
Also examples of the Type 42, and Type 22 and 23 Frigate (though the last two are still in service), we suck at keeping hold of our maritime history in this country. It almost seems as if we say, hey we got the Victory what else do we need?
In terms of civvie ships the Queen Elizabeth (1), Olympic if only as a memorial to her lost sisters, and we really need to see about getting the QE2 back before it ends up on the bottom of Dubai harbour (or a chinese scrapyard
)Further afield, obviously the CV-6 Enterprise, one of the WWII Japanese battleships, and while I know they only just left service I hope Russia saves one of the Typhoon class subs, they're just so cool. CV-65 would be nice but the reactor problem was never solvable.
Oh and in a slightly off topic example, the original model of the Enterprise (NCC-1701) deserves better than sitting in the back of a museum gift shop.
ummm hmcs protector is a Canadian supply ship.
think you must mean hms protector.
No, it is HMCS Protector, hoever, I suppose I should have written it in full - "Her Majesty's Colonial Ship". As I wrote, she, along with some fixed on-shore torpedo tubes, was the whole Sth Aussie navy. At the time Pt Adelaide was an extremely busy place with grain exports and that fact that everything to/from Sth-West Queensland, western NSW and northern Victoria coming down the Darling/Murray to Murray Bridge where it was then railed to Pt Adelaide.
She was sent to China as part of Australia's response to the Boxer Rebellion; she was then taken over by the Comonwealth.