AHC/PC: world communism

-Get the German revolution of 1919 to stabilize and succeed

-Get the Russian revolution to secure Poland, Finland, and all other areas of northeastern Europe

-UK general strike of 1926 spreads and creates a foundation for communism in UK

-US depression hits harder with FBI being unable to rope in Dillinger, Bonnie/Clyde, etc. Lawbreaking becomes more commonplace and FBI renderes powerless with J Edgar Hoover marginalized early

-Germany and USSR form military alliance with Maoist China as a secret affiliate, World War II sees a Moscow-Berlin Axis overrun the Continent

-UK gets involved but forces suffer Dunkirk-like catastrophe with over 250,000 casualties, internal revolt soon begins and brings down London with Communism taking over

-US falls into internal civil war as Maoists being to overrun China with Russian and German help, Japan allies with Western US (capitalist) interests as Eastern US (Communists) begin push into Rockies

-By 1950 World War II is over and communism reigns out of international capital with Soviets/Worker's Republics being made for each ethnic group and nationality

-Great public works projects, including damming of the Mediterranean Sea and irrigation of the Sahara Desert, begin shortly thereafter

-Space program is a massive distraction for the public, but manages to create living space in orbit and resources for Earth-bound industry available

-Educational system follows the Russian model with international language being established. True meritocracy with some politics based on Party politics allows vast educational opportunities for those who test well at a young age. Top educational degree is not a PhD but instead a Doctorate, requiring a second dissertation and further evaluation. This is rarely achieved before the age of 40.

-Military funding is largely channeled into education, pushing certian areas of technology faster and farther than OTL but there is a global "pacification force" largely made of orphans indoctrinated in early age and growing up in strongly State-controlled environments.
 
What's the difference between labour vouches that denote a value and currency that, uh, represent a value in exactly the same way?

Just that 1 labour voucher = 1 hour of any kind of work? Why not just pay people £5 per hour (min and max wage) of work then, or something?

The labour voucher is non-exchangeable between individuals. It can only be exchanged with whatever the workers' state offers (consumer goods, that is). It is a form of socialist currency designed to avoid accumulation of capital.
 
The labour voucher is non-exchangeable between individuals. It can only be exchanged with whatever the workers' state offers (consumer goods, that is). It is a form of socialist currency designed to avoid accumulation of capital.

In theory it's not unlike the American Greenback that was used to fund the Civil War. If you didn't have the whole problem of greenbacks AND the gold standard running around at the same time greenbacks could have ended up as the currency of the United States.
 
The labour voucher is non-exchangeable between individuals. It can only be exchanged with whatever the workers' state offers (consumer goods, that is). It is a form of socialist currency designed to avoid accumulation of capital.

So, they either beat the exchange system (which only I see being secure with electronics/internet) or.... they trade in for goods and then trade the goods.

Food stamps are meant to be non-exchangeable, and yet people trade them, and if they were ID tied or something, people would just trade the food instead.

What's to stop someone exchanging 5 labour vouchers for a laptop then giving it to his mate for a blowjob.

Nah, much better to just limit assets/capital directly, force a maximum limit, should you earn more than the max the state/workers take it off you. 1) It won't affect most people if set well, 2) it's much harder to beat because not everyone uses it.
 

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The labour voucher is non-exchangeable between individuals. It can only be exchanged with whatever the workers' state offers (consumer goods, that is). It is a form of socialist currency designed to avoid accumulation of capital.
Can I trade 1 item of cloth which I purchased but later realized I did not need for 1 bottle of liquor from my neighbor without being arrested?
 
The difference is that while the US public was generally conservative as well, the Russian workers were very militant and class-conscious beginning from the failed revolution of 1905. I suppose it could have been possible if you can make the Socialists grow and yet have a depression still hit the US, but that's still a matter of decades at the very least.

Going back to this issue I'd beg to differ on the US public being more conservative and less class-conscious than Russian workers. I think the bigger difference was the presence of an earlier, successful popular uprising against the government (1905) setting the stage for the 1917 Revolution which was catalyzed by what was at that point in time the biggest, bloodiest war in human history. American workers were definitely organized, militant, and on the march; the Seattle and St. Louis General Strikes along with the wave of strikes which broke out from 1917 all the way to 1920 shows American workers were not slumbering and pacified.

The differences between the two were the fact that the American state did a very thorough job of smashing labor radicalism during the Palmer Raids and was not in the midst of a catastrophic, losing war with a dangerous enemy while doing so, unlike the Russians. If you can avoid the destruction of the American organized radical left which took place at the end of Wilson's administration then the odds of a popular revolution go up dramatically. That said based on the ideas espoused by people like Haywood, Debs, DeLeon, Goldman, and other key American radicals suggests it would more closely resemble Anarchist Catalonia in form and manifestation than Red October.

Jello Biafara has a superb TL where the US undergoes a successful Socialist revolution in 1933 called Red Dawn. It's a definite must-read for anyone interested in this particular topic.
 
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