AHC: Pancho Villa and Emiliano Zapata win the Mexican Revolution

How do you get to a TL where Villa and Zapata come out on top in the Mexican Revolution? What would that Mexico look like?
 
Battle of Celaya

How do you get to a TL where Villa and Zapata come out on top in the Mexican Revolution? What would that Mexico look like?

Villa could have prevailed at the Battle of Celaya. During the second phase of the battle Obregon's forces almost ran out of ammo at a critical phase of the battle. Alternatively Villa could have used better or perhaps the Germans favor Villa+Zapata over Carranza/Obregon and do not provide Obregon with the tactical advice that they did.
 
It would be interesting. I wonder how the two would get along after all I believe Zapta was the more radical of the two
 
Zapata didn't really believe that he was ready for the position of President. However Pancho Villa governed Chihuahua for some time, and new... how to *ahem* handle the rich folk.

Personally I believe one of two things can happen should Villa and Zapata both finalize their alliance sooner and win those key battles. Villa will take a high level of control and learn on his feet how to govern the nation and he holds the office for multiple terms, or he will largely make a mess of it and likely peacefull leave office. He probably stands a better chance of the first if he keeps Zapata around even if unofficially.

That is to say if Villa doesn't get assassinated first...
Should Zapata be assassinated I could see Villa retaliating rather harshly...
 
Zapata was doomed because he was too far from the American border, and couldn't obtain arms. Villa could have done better if he'd listened to his foreign advisors, but his ego wouldn't permit him to do that. At Celaya he just threw away his cavalrymen, sending wave after wave against Obregon's barbed wire and trenches long after he should have understood that a frontal attack was hopeless. Then, having learned nothing from this catastrophe, he did the exact same thing again at Agua Prieta, driving his soldiers almost to the point of mutiny. Like Robert E. Lee, I think he might have believed in himself and in his men a bit too much, convincing himself that just one more charge would carry the day.
However, what if Villa been able to get hold of some tanks? Calles and Obregon would have had an ataque cardíaco!
 
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So if they win, the question becomes: How would they have actually governed Mexico? My understanding is that quite a lot of Zapata's support came from the native population, if that's true they would probably end up getting a better deal then OTL.
 
It also depends on when they win and how, if it's later in 1917-1918 when they consolidate their hold on power I could see a Communist Mexico in very short order if nothing else because revolutionary Russia and revolutionary Mexico would be two very lonely nations following their victories.

What is the likelihood of the US intervening in Mexico if Villa and Zapata win? Would the US charge south and force a compliant dictator into Mexico City after the dust settles in Europe?
 
Mexico was already, for all intents and purposes, a one-party socialist state historically during the 20s and 30s. There was the oppression of Christians, the seizure of foreign companies assets, land redistribution schemes, and the establishment of a singular political party of a perpetual socialist revolution (the PRI) - the US still didn't invade or or try to ferment unrest or revolt. They applied some political pressure during the Cristero Rebellion, and when the the oil industry was nationalized, but they didn't attempt to overthrow the Mexican government.
 
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What is the likelihood of the US intervening in Mexico if Villa and Zapata win? Would the US charge south and force a compliant dictator into Mexico City after the dust settles in Europe?

If a leftist Mexico emerges I imagine intervention would be high. Let us not forget the USA did send troops into Russia as well as having a long history of anti-leftist behavior. The USA was already intervening into the conflict by taking Veracruz and funneling money and arms to Carranza
 
We were alarmed at the leftist character of Mexico after the Revolution, but this was during the Great Depression and we weren't really capable of invading and occupying the country. We were also glad to see Mexico finally at peace, even though we disliked some of the policies of the new government, because we desired an end to the years of turmoil there and the waves of refugees coming north to escape the violence.
In 1929, during the Escobar Rebellion, the US refused to assist the rebels, even going so far as to supply the loyalist air force with warplanes, without which the escobaristas (to whose side nearly a third of the Mexican armed forces defected) might have been victorious.
 
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