AHC: Overthrow the Qing Dynasty before 1900

Create a TL in which the government of the Qing Dunasty in China is overthrown between the time of OTLs Taiping Rebellion and Boxer Rebellion. Perhaps this could be done by making some changes to the outcomes of the Taiping rebellion or Sino-Japanese war. Or a different handeling of the Self-strengthaning movment could lead to an earlier version of the Boxer Rebellion or Wuchang Uprising.
 

FDW

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A successful Taiping would probably be the most obvious answer.

Most obvious, but not necessarily the only one. There was period where there was a Ming remnant in Southern China for about 15 years after the Qing declared their dynasty. If the Ming manage to take a proper stand, they could push the Qing back, if not completely overthrow them. And that's not the only one…
 
Yeah plenty of ways to strangle the Qing in its crib, just make the Three Fuedatories kill it in the 1680's.
 
The opening post asked for the fall of Qing Dynasty between the Taiping and Boxer Rebellions. That's a period centuries after the Three Feudatories and White Lotus affairs.
 

FDW

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The opening post asked for the fall of Qing Dynasty between the Taiping and Boxer Rebellions. That's a period centuries after the Three Feudatories and White Lotus affairs.

Oh, didn't catch that. Well that's a bit harder, as The Qing were actually on an upswing at that time desperately trying to modernize so they could hold off the European powers while also trying not to anger their Chinese subjects by making it seem like they were in bed with the Europeans.
 
Oh, didn't catch that. Well that's a bit harder, as The Qing were actually on an upswing at that time desperately trying to modernize so they could hold off the European powers while also trying not to anger their Chinese subjects by making it seem like they were in bed with the Europeans.
Yep it is hard thats why I'm looking for help.
 
This is going to be very hard. There's not a lot to work with between ~1864 and 1899, considering this is the conservative era of Cixi, especially after the 1870s when almost all of her primary opponents had been killed or removed from power, and the ascension of the Guangxu Emperor, who was Cixi's puppet in all-but name.

Your best bet for anything might be the Sino–French War. Perhaps someone other than Sienkiewicz is in Tokyo, and the Franco-Japanese alliance is carried out in late '84, meaning that the Chinese are now effectively fighting a two-front war, which means that both the Fujian and Beiyang fleets are destroyed, and the Qing face land invasions from Vietnam, Korea, and up the Yangtze and Yellow rivers. You might see a domestic Boxer-esque uprising take place against this background against both the native Qing and the invading Japanese & French. I've seen it implied in numerous sources that the original Black Flag armies might have been remnants of the Taiping, Miao, and Panthay rebellions that had fled south across the Viet border and merged into the native Vietnamese resistance movements there; there's no reason that they couldn't move, once again, back north in the face of encroaching French arms.
 
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