AHC: Non-American Hawaii

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What would a good POD be, what are the butterflies, etc.

and would they be independent, or join another nation?
 
maybe McKinley loses the 1896 election, Democrat Grover Cleveland killed the annexation in 1893, maybe Cleveland goes to the mat for his Friend Queen Liliʻuokalani, maybe Democrats in Congress are stronger in 1898 and stop the annexation of Hawaii and the Philippines.
 
Come on Canadian Hawaii! Our geese have settled the place already it should be ours!

As likely as Canadian Bermuda, the Canadian Bahamas and the Canadian Virgin Islands. ;):D



Seriously, If not part of the US, they'd likely be an independent kingdom within the British Commonwealth and Elizabeth II would be Queen of Hawaii. A good POD would be the early 1840's.
 
Seriously, If not part of the US, they'd likely be an independent kingdom within the British Commonwealth and Elizabeth II would be Queen of Hawaii. A good POD would be the early 1840's.

not really when the coup came in 1893 two reports calling it illegal backed by President Cleveland (the Blount Report & Morgan Report) the US government called for Queen Liliʻuokalani be reinstated at once.
 
As likely as Canadian Bermuda, the Canadian Bahamas and the Canadian Virgin Islands. ;):D



Seriously, If not part of the US, they'd likely be an independent kingdom within the British Commonwealth and Elizabeth II would be Queen of Hawaii. A good POD would be the early 1840's.

Those were all pretty probably things. :(
 
not really when the coup came in 1893 two reports calling it illegal backed by President Cleveland (the Blount Report & Morgan Report) the US government called for Queen Liliʻuokalani be reinstated at once.

What does this have to do w/the possibility of Great Britain establishing control over the islands in the 1840s?
 
As likely as Canadian Bermuda, the Canadian Bahamas and the Canadian Virgin Islands. ;):D



Seriously, If not part of the US, they'd likely be an independent kingdom within the British Commonwealth and Elizabeth II would be Queen of Hawaii. A good POD would be the early 1840's.

Or it might be like Tonga and preserve the native monarchy.
 
Seriously, If not part of the US, they'd likely be an independent kingdom within the British Commonwealth and Elizabeth II would be Queen of Hawaii. A good POD would be the early 1840's.

The British might keep the local aristrocracy and royalty, so EII might be Empress of Hawaii.
 
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